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From: "Jim O'Donnell" <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 18:35:51 -0700

Amazon v. ILL:  it's a cost question and Amazon will have advantages
of scale.  Right now, in twelve cities, they're doing same day
delivery on a lot of prime items -- it will be a while before we can
compete at all on that, and meanwhile prosperous students who need
this *now* for a paper they're writing will make a choice.  (I think
that is an emerging problem for us in libraries:  they are used to
getting crappy information instantly on the net and better information
today/tomorrow/48 hours from Amazon, so when we tell them our ILL
commitment time is 2-5 days, they look at us funny and think of their
options.)

Jim O'Donnell
ASU


On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 7:21 AM, LIBLICENSE <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> From: Sandy Thatcher <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 21:25:20 -0500
>
> All of those.
>
>
> > From: Devin Savage <[log in to unmask]>
> > Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 08:07:53 -0500
> >
> > Asking from a position of ignorance here, so I know nothing of this
> > service, but.... Better than ILL in what way? Is it more reliable,
> > more accurate, quicker, cheaper (for now)?
> >
> > Devin
> >
> > Devin Savage
> > Assistant Dean for Assessment and Scholarly Communication
> > Paul V. Galvin Library
> > Illinois Institute of Technology
> > 35 West 33rd Street
> > Chicago, IL  60616
> >
> > On Thursday, June 16, 2016, LIBLICENSE <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>  From: Sandy Thatcher <[log in to unmask]>
> >>  Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 23:27:44 -0500
> >>
> >>  The CCC's GetItNow service is already better than ILL, but it covers
> >>  only articles so far.
> >>
> >>  Sandy Thatcher
> >>
> >>
> >>  > From: "Jim O'Donnell" <[log in to unmask]>
> >>  > Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 14:57:51 -0700
> >>  >
> >>  > Starting in my own condo building but encouraged by the New York Times
> >>  >
> >>  > (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/09/realestate/the-doormans-dilemma-what-to-do-with-all-those-packages.html?emc=eta1)
> >>  >
> >>  > I observe a national trend in package room crises.  Too many boxes
> >>  > being delivered to residences and even offices and no place to put
> >>  > them.  (If you live in an apartment building and they accept your
> >>  > packages for you, look to see where they are stashing them:  it can
> >>  > get ugly.)
> >>  >
> >>  > So then Amazon appears.  Amazon lockers and now a growing stream I've
> >>  > seen mentioned on other lists of Amazon "stores" esp. on campuses:
> >>  >
> >>  > http://www.berkeleyside.com/2016/01/15/amazon-opens-new-store-on-uc-berkeley-campus/
> >>  >
> >>  > The campus issue seems particularly to be that students don't care
> >>  > about their US Mail any more and are happy to walk a good ways to a
> >>  > central location to pick that up, but they too want their packages
> >>  > where they live.
> >>  >
> >>  > So there's Mr. Amazon, looking to solve the problem.  The "stores"
> >>  > don't stock merchandise in the traditional way and are indeed more
> >>  > package pickup with a little customer service.  Nose of camel under
> >>  > tent?  Well, leaving aside the contracts many campuses have with the
> >>  > one or two big vendors left in the "bookstore" business but that
> >>  > Amazon could work to supplant, when would we decide that Amazon
> >>  > print-on-demand is a better solution to need-it-now than ILL? Some of
> >>  > the time?  Lots of the time?  How much camel will wind up inside the
> >>  > tent?
> >>  >
> >>  > Jim O'Donnell
> >>  > Arizona State University

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