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From: Joan Stein <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 11:14:45 -0500

Our post-docs are most definitely members of our campus community too.
 I'm not sure why that should be an issue at your institution.  Maybe
it depends on how you define "post-doc".  If they are still at your
institution doing some type of work for the university, then there
shouldn't be an issue.  If they have received their EdD and are no
longer at your university, then they are technically alumni, not
alumni and post-docs.  I'm beginning to confuse even myself, so I hope
you understand what I mean.

Do you allow your alums to keep their university user id to use the
computer system? I would imagine that if you do that, and your
databases use the university id to authenticate people, then your
alums would still have access through your VPN.  Alums _are_ part of
the campus community, after all, and some of them go on to recommend
database purchases at their new places of employment, so the vendors
gain loyal followers that can increase their business and the
university gets to continue to acknowledge their alumni in a way that
is meaningful to them.

Regards,
Joan Stein


On 1/26/2012 5:32 PM, LIBLICENSE wrote:

> From: Doug Kariel<[log in to unmask]>
> Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 10:38:34 -0700
>
> Hi Liz,
>
> Our Post-doc people are considered part of the university community.
> They and all other members of the university community (staff,
> students, faculty) have access to all licensed resources as long as
> they use links that use our proxy server and they are then
> authenticated to use the licensed resource. This is the case in every
> post-secondary institution that I am aware of. Libraries put the lists
> of resources on their web page and the links ensure that the proxy
> server is hit prior to users getting to a resource.
>
> We also have alumni access for students who have graduated.  Proquest,
> Ebsco, and several other vendors allow libraries to purchase alumni
> access to given databases.  In some cases, the alumni version of the
> database is smaller than the regular version.  In others, it is the
> same.  You do have to then keep a patron record in your library system
> so that these people can be authenticated.  We give alumni a specific
> patron type and our proxy server admin allows us to control which
> databases they are able to access.
>
> I hope this helps.
>
> Doug Kariel
> Head, Technical Services and Systems
> Athabasca University Library
> Athabasca, AB.  T9S 3A3
> http://library.athabascau.ca
> e-mail: [log in to unmask]
>
>
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 5:08:33 PM GMT -07:00
>> Subject: Post-doc access to e-resources
>> From: Liz Ginno<[log in to unmask]>
>>
>> Dear colleagues,
>>
>> The EdD folks (across campuses in our consortia) are looking at
>> strategies to negotiate post-doc access to e-resources. "Many of our
>> programs are now graduating our doctoral students.  Some of our
>> graduates are asking about on-going access to electronic journals and
>> they are willing to pay for access through their office or home
>> computers.  Our library tells us that the only access graduates can
>> have  is by coming to campus and using the library computers.  Not
>> good for most of our students."
>>
>> My colleague understands that our vendors are not interested in
>> general 'alumni access' contracts, but we were wondering if any of you
>> know of any 'research center' or 'scholarly society' arrangements in a
>> large consortium where a defined sub-set has negotiated a subscription
>> separate from the University.
>>
>> The thought is to set up a paid membership group of EdD graduates who
>> would then negotiate access to a limited set of e-resources (like Sage
>> &  Education Abstracts for example).
>>
>> Thank you for any guidance you can provide!
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Liz Ginno
>> Librarian
>> California State University, East Bay

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