From: James Jordan <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 09:03:09 -0400
If I may be allowed another odd intervention, I did not intend to
malign the good reputation of Wiley, only question the level of
academic participation in some of these society decisions. If one is
going to complain that the allegiance of for profit firms to
shareholders runs against the interests of the constituency, one
should make one's voice heard.
James D. Jordan
President and Director
Columbia University Press
New York, NY 10023
www.cup.columbia.edu
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On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 7:29 PM, LIBLICENSE <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> From: Anthony Watkinson <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 09:19:34 +0100
>
> I was accustomed to make use of this argument when I was Head of Journals
> at OUP. It had resonance but some societies would say they had no interest in
> subsidising Oxford University.
>
> Anthony
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sandy Thatcher <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 09:41:10 -0500
>
> > Remember, it is not only
> > large commercial publishers in this game, but I know very reputable
> > large university presses that also play in this space.
>
> Yes, but in the latter case, any surpluses made stay within the
> academic system and can be used to further benefit higher education.
>
> Sandy Thatcher
>
>
> > From: Zac Rolnik <[log in to unmask]>
> > Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 09:45:22 -0400
> >
> > Sandy,
> >
> > The primary reason societies outsource their journal publishing to
> > large commercial publishers is $$$. Have you ever seen the types of
> > offers made by large publishers (both commercial and university
> > presses) for large successful journals? The financial rewards are
> > often hard to resist, especially for a society only publishing one or
> > two journals where their fixed costs eat up much of the revenue.
> > Whether it is the in-house cost of staff at the society, the cost of
> > an electronic platform, or the worldwide sales and marketing, I think
> > that societies are well aware of the options, costs and revenues
> > associated with such deals. But not all deals are the same and
> > societies can negotiate deals that include specific pricing
> > provisions, guaranteed revenues and attractive revenue sharing,
> > editorial control, etc. When societies look to outsource publication
> > they are in the driver's seat and should carefully negotiate their
> > agreements. In many instances, the outsourcing of journals to large
> > publications has been good for societies. Remember, it is not only
> > large commercial publishers in this game, but I know very reputable
> > large university presses that also play in this space.
> >
> > Zac Rolnik
> > now publishers
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