From: Joseph Esposito <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 18:21:47 -0400

Rick is entirely correct about this, of course.  Green OA journals
that are on the margin (that is, not the big dog journals like Science
or Nature) are more likely to be cancelled because budgets are
limited.  We can protest this all we want, but librarians are smart
and practical and have to make hard choices.  Green OA is simply one
more thing to take into account and it increases the chance of
cancellation.

Joe Esposito


On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 5:23 PM, LIBLICENSE <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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> From: Sally Morris <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 16:58:01 +0100
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> There seems to be confusion here - are we talking about cancellation
> where libraries can supply (enough of) their patrons' needs via OA
> versions of articles, or cancellation as 'punishment' for 'bad'
> publishers?  The latter seems to be like cutting off your nose to
> spite your face, if I may say so
>
> Sally
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> From: Jean-Claude Guédon <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 11:46:17 -0400
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> Thank you for this useful digest of a complex discussion.
>
> Just one point where I fully agree with Stevan Harnad: libraries
> should not choose preferentially to cancel green journals; after all,
> green journals are being more or less cooperative in accepting to fall
> under the green label (I will leave aside the various green flavours).
> On the other hand, journals that refuse any collaboration with the
> green strategy, i.e. that refuse any form of self-archiving or impose
> unreasonable embargoes, could be usefully targeted. That ought to help
> the green strategy quite a bit.
>
> I realize that some of these recalcitrant journals may be highly
> desirable from the researchers' perspective, but that would open the
> possibility of a useful, pedagogic, dialogue between librarians and
> researchers. The latter, let us remember, ignore (and often remain
> intent on ignoring) the pain of licence prices.
>
> Jean-Claude Guédon