From: "Jean-Claude Guédon" <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2018 17:51:20 -0500
Hmmmmmm From Marx to Proudhon as if it were an equivalence... ??? How
can Elbakyan be an avowed communist ideologue while her basic premise
is "...right out of the French anarchist thinker Proudhon".
Does this mean that the Philosophy of poverty is the same book as the
Poverty of Philosophy?
Amusing...
Regarding Sci-Hub, it is not Open Access, it is something else. I am
not sure how to label Sci-Hub, but, please, do not confuse Sci-Hub and
Open Access.
As for the source, The Verge, does anyone know anything about its
reliability? It reads like a tabloid.
Jean-Claude Guédon
Le lundi 12 février 2018 à 20:42 -0500, LIBLICENSE a écrit :
From: SANFORD G THATCHER <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2018 19:40:35 -0500
This is a very interesting article and, as far as I can tell, accurate in its
reporting of the facts.
What surprises me is that in acountry like the United States that has a long
history of anti-communism so many people in academe want to play ball with an
avowed communist ideologue like Elbakyan. Her basic premise comes right out of
the French anarchist thinker Proudhon, who famously said "Property is theft!" I
wonder how many of her supporters really would like to see the US turned into
an authoritarian country like Russia, which is what Elbakyan wants to happen.
Like Peter Suber, as he well knows, I have been a supporter of open access
going back to a time when that term did not yet exist, and I agree with him
that Sci-Hub gives open access a bad name. While thinking she is working in
the public interest, she has done untold damage to university press publishing
in this country by encouraging the theft of monographs as well as journal
articles. A lot of presses with journals programs depend on surpluses from
those programs to internally subsidize publication of monographs, so efforts
like hers have resulted in making it ever more difficult for junior scholars
especially to find outlets for their monographs. There are a few efforts to do
open-access monograph publishing, but they are way behind where OA journal
publishing is and meanwhile untold damage is being done to young scholars'
careers and futures through the externalities of programs like Sci-Hub and
LibGen.
Ironically, publishers' efforts to combat Sci-Hub have led them to bring the
courts into the fray and strengthen legal precedents that can be used against
other, perhaps more
constructive OA undertakings. Sci-Hub's legacy may be a more repressive legal
environment overall--not that Elbakyan cares because her ultimate aim is to
bring down capitalism itself.
Sandy Thatcher
On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 05:19 PM LIBLICENSE <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
From: Ann Okerson <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 4:52 PM
"In cramped quarters at Russia’s Higher School of Economics, shared by
four students and a cat, sat a server with 13 hard drives. The server
hosted Sci-Hub, a website with over 64 million academic papers
available for free to anybody in the world. It was the reason that,
one day in June 2015, Alexandra Elbakyan, the student and programmer
with a futurist streak and a love for neuroscience blogs, opened her
email to a message from the world’s largest publisher: 'YOU HAVE BEEN
SUED.'"
https://www.theverge.com/2018/2/8/16985666/alexandra-elbakyan-sci-hub-open-access-science-papers-lawsuit
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