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From: Ari Belenkiy <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 22:18:35 -0700

Stevan Harnad,

I failed to hear this time the key word "taxpayer" that permeated your
earlier writings.

Thus, the taxpayer's status is unimportant? You argued for the
well-being of an "ideal" taxpayer - is this a researcher?

I cannot see how the modern system prevents a serious researcher from
an immediate intake in other's research. I did not hear of any
independent researcher in Medicine who works inside of any institution
which cannot allow itself to buy all necessary journals.

And the third response on the list convinced me again that it is
Medicine that matters most for the OA advocates.

Perhaps this is lobbying for the people with serious medical problems.
Though then your position is quite understandable, you still a
lobbyist, like any other group with particular interests.

Ari Belenkiy


On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 2:29 PM, LIBLICENSE <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> From: Stevan Harnad <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2012 06:35:40 -0400
>
> > From: Ari Belenkiy <[log in to unmask]>
> > Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 18:50:34 -0700
> >
> > Despite his valuable personal recollections, Steven Harnad  so far
> > failed to answer  two my questions:
> >
> > 1. Why the EU research must be immediately open for the non-EU
> > researchers (who are not, in particularly, EU-taxpayers)?
>
> Because research is done and reported in order to be used, applied
> and built upon by other researchers -- not just those who can
> subscribe to the journal in which it appeared, or who live in the same
> country as the researcher.
>
> > 2. Why the EU taxpayers, who contribute different amounts in tax, must
> > have equal opportunities to access the results of the EU research?
>
> The primary purpose of providing OA is so that the primary intended
> users of the research (researchers worldwide) can use, apply and
> build upon it. Access by the interested public is a secondary bonus.
>
> > [Of course, EU could be substituted here for Britain or the US or
> > Russia or China or etc.]
>
> If you want your research findings to be confidential and
> restricted, you don't publish them at all.
>
> OA is for research published in peer-reviewed journals, for all
> potential users. The journal price-tag is an access-restrictor.
>
> Stevan Harnad

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