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From: Sally Morris <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 12:35:28 +0100

Ari's post overlooks the fact that the publisher covers all the costs and
takes all the risks.  In many cases, particularly with monographs they may
not make any more than the author does at the end of the day

Sally Morris
South House, The Street, Clapham, Worthing, West Sussex, UK  BN13 3UU
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From: Ari Belenkiy <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2012 23:04:01 -0700

But David, Finch made it clear that Universities lack the means for
distribution of its faculty's works.

This is the vocation of publishers who reap the dividends.

That's why the authors of the books receive only 10% of revenue - the rest
goes to a publisher.

Ari Belenkiy
Richmond BC


On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 7:04 PM, LIBLICENSE <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> From: David Prosser <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2012 13:58:54 +0100
>
> Joe
>
> Research university X already gives away its intellectual property and
> then spends much more than non-research universities in buying access
> to the intellectual property of other research universities.  Where's
> the strategic thinking there?
>
> And of course, a lot of the research done isn't paid for by the
> universities themselves - it's paid for by research funders such as
> NIH in the US and the Research Councils in the UK.  For the NIH to
> ensure that NIH-funded researcher in University N has access to
> research outputs generated by NIH-funded researcher at University M
> looks to me the epitome of strategic thinking.
>
> David
>
>
> On 23 Jun 2012, at 04:00, LIBLICENSE wrote:
>
> > From: Joseph Esposito <[log in to unmask]>
> > Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 11:31:12 -0700
> >
> > It's really troubling to see all these discussions taking place as
> > though the only thing that matters is short-term cost and revenue
> > projections.  Does everyone really think the world does not change
> > from time to time?  It is simply not in a research university's
> > interest to support OA, green, gold, or any other flavor.  Most
> > research is produced at a small number of institutions; OA is in the
> > interest of organizations (most colleges and universities, the
> > corporate sector, and government and NGOs) that don't produce the
> > research.  There is a total absence of strategic thinking here.
> >
> > So what's the scenario?  Major research university X gives away its
> > intellectual property and then cuts faculty for lack of funding.
> > Ridiculous.
> >
> > Joe Esposito

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