From: Sandy Thatcher <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 20:13:30 -0500

Glad to hear it!  Rumors keep flying that more and more publishers are
cutting back on or eliminating copyediting altogether, and as one who
started his career in publishing as a copyeditor, that is always sad
news.

> From: Paul Peters <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 13:20:56 +0100
>
> Hi Sandy,
>
> I just wanted to respond to the point that you mentioned in your
> message below. Hindawi does indeed provide language copyediting for
> all published articles as part of our standard production process.
>
> Best regards,
> Paul
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> Paul Peters
> Chief Executive Officer
>
> Hindawi Limited
> Adam House
> 1 Fitzroy Square
> London, W1T 5HF
> United Kingdom
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>
> On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 2:15 AM, LIBLICENSE <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>>  From: Sandy Thatcher <[log in to unmask]>
>>  Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2017 19:35:55 -0500
>>
>>  I heard somewhere that Hindawi does not provide copyediting. If that
>>  is true, there is one source of saving right there.
>>
>>  Sandy Thatcher
>>
>>
>>>  From: "Jan Erik Frantsvåg" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>  Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2017 08:20:50 +0000
>>>
>>>  Joe, you are right:
>>>  High profit margins at Hindawi cannot be a result of their controlling
>>>  a monopoly (or sale of aggregations). But only to a degree: They could
>>>  be (and I believe they must be) a result of high prices in the
>>>  publishing market, not connected to high costs but to monopolistic
>>>  competition. No need for H to set much lower prices than competitors,
>>>  but with low costs they can earn much money as long as pricing in the
>>>  market is set by the large players who control monopolies, and how
>>>  have high costs, often for historical reasons.
>>>
>>>  The numbers I found some years ago indicated that Hindawi's 50 per
>>>  cent profit margin came from APCs lower than Elsevier's per article
>>>  profit. Which means that there is much room for cost-cutting and
>>>  lowering of prices if a competitive marked for APCs can be created.
>>>
>>>  The larger publishers won't have the creating of a competitive market
>>>  high on their agenda, quite the opposite. So it is up to libraries and
>>>  other buyer's or buyers' representatives to work towards such a
>>>  change.
>>>
>>>  Best,
>>>  Jan Erik