From: "Hinchliffe, Lisa W" <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2019 20:01:46 +0000

Could you say a bit more about what you are learning from your campus
IT folks? Are you saying that they are seeing multiple compromises of
accounts that result in downloading the same content multiple times to
different sites?

Even if that is the case though ... is that of a level sufficient to
also counter the effect of RG downloads do you think?

Lisa
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From: Ian Gibson <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2019 18:38:50 +0000

Apologies for responding to something so far back on the thread but
the impact on usage stats cuts both ways. On the one hand people go to
SciHub (and other sites that use compromised credentials to get at the
literature) and download stuff that they could have got from the
library and that drives down our usage totals. On the other hand
compromised credentials (used by SciHub and elsewhere) also generate
usage stats as they harvest things which messes up your stats in the
other direction. In the past I would have been comfortable saying that
the impact of the former is much greater than the impact of the
latter. After talking to our campus IT security folks I'm not nearly
as confident.

Cheers,
Ian

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From: "Hinchliffe, Lisa W" <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2019 23:20:00 +0000

But surely usage is considered? And as usage goes elsewhere it
devalues the big deal because the cost per download goes up.
Librarians don't have to be endorsing or encouraging use of
ResearchGate (or SciHub), whether to access licit or illicit copies,
for the reality of that use to be impacting on ata that effects
library subscriptions to content?

Lisa Janicke Hinchliffe
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