From: Richard James <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 08:07:53 -0400

Joe, what you say about author preference is so well known it hardly
needs restating, but DOAJ is what it is, and hasn't ever claimed to
judge the scholarly merits of journals, and isn't organized or or
credentialed to do so. Subbiah is correct in that the seal is a simple
visual reference for users that the quality and extent of the OA
policies of a particular journal are the most comprehensive in the
various criteria that they measure. I think that saying academic
standards trump all other criteria is the real setback, because
doesn't this allow all of the super-publishers off the hook as long as
they attract the best papers and have the most rigorous review?



On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 8:39 PM, LIBLICENSE <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> From: Subbiah Arunachalam <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 06:00:27 +0530
>
> There need not be any confusion here. All that DOAJ seal confers, if I
> understand it right, is that the journal is fully open access. How can
> folks at DOAJ evaluate merits of journals in diverse fields? What they
> are doing seems to be fine.
>
> Arun
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 4:48 AM, LIBLICENSE <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >
> > From: Joseph Esposito <[log in to unmask]>
> > Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 08:22:20 -0400
> >
> > Gosh, Richard, this is disappointing.  Best practices without academic
> > merit?  What's the point?
> >
> > I spend a great deal of my time working with professional societies to
> > help them establish OA services - I wrote about this a while ago:
> >
> > http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2015/01/05/making-a-case-for-open-access/
> >
> > but the DOAJ policy is a real setback.  In my experience authors put
> > the highest priority on the prestige of the journal they publish in.
> >
> > Joe Esposito
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 3:32 PM, LIBLICENSE <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > >
> > > From: Richard James <[log in to unmask]>
> > > Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 09:28:51 -0400
> > >
> > > Joe, it states that it doesn't judge on 'academic merit', not 'academic
> > > standards', which is a completely different animal.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 4:06 PM, LIBLICENSE <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > From: Joseph Esposito <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 14:28:31 -0400
> > > >
> > > > I must be missing something here. If the seal is bestowed for, among
> > > > other things, "publishing standards," how can it ignore academic
> > > > standards? Don't academic standards trump all other criteria?
> > > >
> > > > Joe Esposito