From: Sally Morris <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 14:11:59 +0000

We all used to be perfectly content to sell/buy, respectively, print books
and journals without any 'terms and conditions'.  Yes, I know that what
people can in principle do with e-publications is immeasurably scarier to
publishers, but haven't we all added greatly to the cost of e-publications
by involving expensive legal people on both sides to write and then
negotiate these contracts?

It's not just publishers who are to blame; some years ago, I understand that
BMJ tried to do without an agreement for its online version, only to yield
to customer pressure to reintroduce it!

I'm sure you are all familiar with the various attempts there have been to
simplify/standardise journal agreements - but how much success have they
actually had?

Sally


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-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph Esposito <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2013 22:04:43 -0500

A brief contract with little detail is very good unless and until something
goes wrong.

Joe Esposito


On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 7:31 PM, LIBLICENSE <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> From: "Renison, Neil" <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2013 23:34:17 +0000
>
> Recent comments on the thread of eBooks without Contracts seem to
> overlook the purpose of this list and why most of us subscribe to it.
> I admit to wondering myself about the value of the collection, but I
> simply wouldn't know and it is irrelevant to the main point of the
> post.  I just wish people wouldn't clutter the list with matters off
> topic.
>
> What was of interest is the revolutionary idea that a deal could be
> "culminated through the legal equivalent of a sketch on a cocktail
> napkin, not a 330 page contract with multiple addenda."  Spending so
> much my time dealing with the insanity of licensing electronic
> resources, one can only be interested in any potential for a better
> way.  Perhaps this example isn't, but that is what the debate should
> be about.
>
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