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From: Sally Morris <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 17:57:47 +0000

When's the new STM report due out?

We are just finalising our proofs for the 'Handbook of Journal Publishing',
and would like our stats and references to be as up to date as possible!

Sally Morris
South House, The Street, Clapham, Worthing, West Sussex, UK  BN13 3UU
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From: Michael Mabe <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 12:38:45 +0200

I think the confusion about the size of the STM segment arises from a
misreading of Outsell and other data. The Outsell data for all STM is close
to the US$19b quoted in the thread below (US$20b in recent reports). This
includes not just journals but databases, secondary publishing, medical data
and geodata (which is huge). When Mark Ware and I have tried to disentangle
this for our figures in the STM Report
(http://www.stm-assoc.org/2009_10_13_MWC_STM_Report.pdf )- new edition due
in October - we estimated the contributions to overall sales of journals to
be about US$8b in 2008 which would be roughly US$9b at the moment, allowing
for sales growth.

Sally's observation about the size of the UK chocolate market is one I have
also made; we all think the STM journal sector is huge but it is tiny
compared to the consumer market, even for quite specialised things. The
total value of all UK journal subscriptions in one year is also equal to the
annual sales value for Christmas puddings.

Best, Michael

Michael A Mabe
Chief Executive Officer
International Association of STM Publishers Prama House, 267 Banbury Road
OXFORD, OX2 7HT, UK
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Web:   www.stm-assoc.org

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From: Sally Morris <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 18:36:58 +0100

There are no accurate estimates for the global value of the total scholarly
journals market (believe me, I've looked!).  In 2010 Simba estimated the
market for English-language journals in STM (the largest
sector) at $8.147bn.  This is pretty small in the overall scheme of things -
in the same year the market for chocolate and confectionery in the UK alone
was approx $7.72bn, according to KeyNote!

Sally Morris
South House, The Street, Clapham, Worthing, West Sussex, UK  BN13 3UU
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From: Joseph Esposito <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2012 15:23:00 -0700

This is all very helpful.  And it supports the view that no number about
publishing can be taken at face value.

Now for another number:  Where in the world does that $19 billion figure for
worldwide STM journal sales come from?  That's a huge number.  What could
possibly be in there?  Add up the journals businesses at Wiley, Elsevier,
Springer, T&F--and throw in Kluwer, Sage, ACS, and some others, and you
don't get near that figure, or near 50% of that figure.

Joe Esposito

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