LIBLICENSE-L Archives

LibLicense-L Discussion Forum

LIBLICENSE-L@LISTSERV.CRL.EDU

Options: Use Forum View

Use Monospaced Font
Show Text Part by Default
Show All Mail Headers

Message: [<< First] [< Prev] [Next >] [Last >>]
Topic: [<< First] [< Prev] [Next >] [Last >>]
Author: [<< First] [< Prev] [Next >] [Last >>]

Print Reply
Subject:
From:
LIBLICENSE <[log in to unmask]>
Reply To:
LibLicense-L Discussion Forum <[log in to unmask]>
Date:
Sun, 29 Apr 2012 22:20:13 -0400
Content-Type:
text/plain
Parts/Attachments:
text/plain (50 lines)
From: "Hamaker, Charles" <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 23:58:07 +0000

Comparative use/cost per use data across similar institutions could be
a very useful indicator of value and useful point for negotiating with
vendors and publishers. As it is we are at the mercy of whatever
metric a provider chooses to use be it FTES, the commonly used Tier
system, etc. We are at the mercy of some times egregious pricing
practices from what I have seen of comparative data. Comparable data
from peer institutions would help in negotiating value for money. If a
non-engineering institution is paying 10 times the cost per use as a
University with a College of Engineeringfor an engineering database,
that's helpful data to have in making a local decision about value for
money paid. We are also at the mercy of "value" judgments from our
main patrons who don't care much to be told their particular favorite
database with its local use puts the non-engineering institution in
the top quartile of cost per use-to give an example. So I guess I have
to disagree with Fred. In practice, CPU data is a valuable indicator
that when we get down to trying to figure out (as many of us are right
now) what is the best value for money can be one of several factors to
be included in the decision making process.

Chuck Hamaker
________________________________________

From: Frederick Friend <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 12:54:46 +0100

I agree with Joan Stein's review of the work that has been carried out
over many years. We have learned a great deal about both usage and
value, and I found the ACRL report particularly valuable in directing
attention to institutional definitions of what constitutes value. It
is in the institutional context that usage statistics can be of value,
and if there is an answer to Ann's question it has to be reached
institution by institution, defining the factors which apply in each
institution on issues such as proportion of current and past
acquisitions which are electronic or paper. The risk of inaccuracy
comes when usage statistics are cumulated, e.g. to say that "US
libraries are now gaining greater value from their electronic
resources than from their paper resources", because value cannot be
cumulated in the same way as usage statistics. Inaccuracy also creeps
in when financial information is combined with usage statistics and
treated as an indication of value. A statement such as "US libraries
are only paying x cents for each item downloaded" is meaningless as a
measure of value in isolation from the institutional and user
environments which give content its value. An interesting discussion!

Fred Friend
Honorary Director Scholarly Communication UCL

ATOM RSS1 RSS2