From: Anthony Watkinson <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2015 12:40:54 +0000

There are people involved in scholarly communication who want to
engage in dialogue and those who do not. Fred is one of the former.
The term "Publishing Industry" is a real give away. Fred is a
scientist who now runs a membership organisation which represents
scientists. I suppose AIP is "industry" (for some) though its mission
is much the same as the mission of the people who pay Chuck. I am not
so sure of Danny's organisation. I know nothing about STM's
motivations (no-one has discussed this planned consultation with me)
but I do know that if Fred supports it, it will be a genuine attempt
to take soundings among the people who have something to say. I have
involved in some research on sharing recently and can with some
certainty state that the nature of "natural discourse of scholarly
communication" may be obvious to some but to those of us who are
trying to understand it (what researchers actually think and do) it is
a very complicated area indeed. It is likely that there will be a
presentation on what the research (UTK and CIBER) have demonstrated so
far at the forthcoming followed later by publications.

Anthony

-----Original Message-----
From: "Hamaker, Charles" <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 05:44:57 +0000

AMEN!
Chuck Hamaker

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From: Danny Kingsley <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 20:57:31 +0000

Thanks Fred,

My comment is this appears to be an attempt to try and catch the cat
that has left the bag some time ago. Caveats on sizes of academic
groups would seem to be an attempt to exclude ResearchGate and
Academia.edu and the wish to track everything seems like a way to get
'evidence' that the publishing industry can then later try and turn
into an argument of further restrictions on sharing.

I¹m sorry, but this document does not demonstrate a genuine interest
in allowing the natural discourse of scholarly communication to go on.

Danny

Dr Danny Kingsley
Visiting Fellow
Australian National Centre for the Public Awareness of Science (CPAS)
w: http://cpas.anu.edu.au/about-us/people/danny-kingsley
t: @dannykay68



On 25/02/2015 01:43, "LIBLICENSE" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

>From: Fred Dylla <[log in to unmask]>
>Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 17:01:29 +0000
>
>Colleagues,
>
>The International Association of Scientific, Technical and Medical
>Publishers (STM) (http://www.stm-assoc.org/) has initiated a formal
>consultation on the sharing of published articles via scholarly
>collaboration networks (SCNs). STM is reaching out to stakeholders to
>invite and encourage wide participation in the consultation. We have
>sent more than a dozen invitations to various library consortia around
>the world, and believe that individual subscribers to LIBLICENSE might
>also be interested in participating as you share the commitment to
>meeting the needs of researchers..
>
>In effort to ensure that we capture as much feedback for consideration
>as possible, we invite LIBLICENSE subscribers to submit their ideas,
>impressions or support through official  channels, hosted on the STM
>website: http://www.stm-assoc.org/stm-consultations/scn-consultation-2015.
>The consultation is open through April 10th.
>
>Fred Dylla
>
>H. Frederick Dylla
>
>Chair, STM working group for article sharing on scholarly collaboration
>networks (SCNs)
>
>Executive Director & CEO, American Institute of Physics