From: Ari Belenkiy <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2013 23:36:19 -0700

The question addresses only one nuance - how to cite a correct page
for reference. But the answer is simple.

When we site an article, its first and last page suffice. No one cites
the intermediate pages in the article (as it is usually done in the
book). Sometimes an equation is quoted by its number and not by the
page it is on.

So if the first and last pages are available it is enough for all purposes.

Ari Belenkiy



On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 9:10 AM, LIBLICENSE <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> From: Sandy Thatcher <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2013 14:27:48 -0500
>
> I'm interested in how Rick would answer the following question: given
> that Green OA articles are usually not the version of record, are you
> content to cancel subscriptions knowing that scrupulous faculty
> members will need to consult the version of record in quoting from an
> article and that, therefore, you would not be supplying everything
> that such faculty members need?  I am referring here, of course, to
> journals "closer to the center of our interests," not to ones "near
> the periphery." I'm perfectly willing to grant that Green OA content
> may suffice to fulfill the needs of classroom teaching where it may
> not matter so much if a student does not get a quotation exactly
> right, but scholars should not be willing to settle for second best in
> doing their formal writing for publication.
>
> Sandy Thatcher
>
>
>
> > From: Rick Anderson <[log in to unmask]>
> > Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 15:18:53 +0000
> >
> > Rick Anderson asked:
> >
> >>> Is there an easy way (easier than searching title-by-title through SHERPA/RoMEO) to get a complete list of journals offering Green access with no embargo? I can't speak for the marketplace as a whole, but my library will cancel most if not all of our subscriptions to any such journals - my institution is not giving us money so that we can spend it on content that's available for free.
> >
> >
> > David Prosser replied:
> >
> >>> I don't know if there is a way of getting a list, but I think you are conflating two things.  I assume you are saying you would cancel if all of the content of the journal was available without embargo.  Sherpa/Romeo doesn't tell you that - it just tells you whether or not the publisher allows green deposit without embargo.
> >
> >
> > And -- Rick Anderson replied:
> >
> > You're right, I should be more precise: if I know that a publisher
> > allows green deposit of all articles without embargo, then the
> > likelihood that we'll maintain a paid subscription drops dramatically
> > - and drops even further if the journal is near the periphery of my
> > institution's research and curricular interests. If the journal is
> > closer to the center of our interests, then before dropping the
> > subscription we'd probably do a quick survey to see what percentage of
> > its articles are showing up in public repositories within a reasonably
> > brief period.
> >
> > Rick Anderson
> > Assoc. Dean for Scholarly Resources & Collections
> > Marriott Library, University of Utah
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