From: Colin Steele <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2013 22:25:23 +0000

Stevan perhaps doesn't realise that the horse has bolted over the
alleged hurdles in some parts of the world. Open access monographs are
increasingly prevalent in a number of forms. Relatively few authors
get any or significant royalties in Australia from academic monographs
and publishing in open access or hybrid open access presses is
growing. The Australian Research Council also has included monographs
in its 2013 policy, although the implications of this will not be felt
until current research is completed around 2016 /2017.  Best Colin

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Colin Steele
Emeritus Fellow
College of Arts and Social Sciences
The Australian National University
Canberra ACT 0200 Australia
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On 2013-11-17, at 2:27 PM, LIBLICENSE <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> From: Sandy Thatcher <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2013 09:02:15 -0600
>
> Why should Green OA not apply to books if and when the authors are
> receiving no royalty payments? What difference is there in the
> intellectual content that justifies treating them any differently? If
> money is not involved as a reward to authors, why should they not be
> under the same mandate as journal article authors? It seems artificial
> to create this digital divide between books and journals. Both
> contribute to the advance of knowledge, and access to both is
> important.

One thing at a time, Sandy: Green mandates have not yet prevailed for
journal articles,where the case is more clearcut and exception-free.
(Let's not, like Stephen Leacock's fabled horseman, jump on a horse
"and gallop off in all directions" (articles, books, data, software,
Green, Gold, CC-BY.)

There is one priority, and it will usher in all the rest: mandate
Green for journal articles (Liège model
immediate-institutional-deposit, whether or not embargoed, as a
condition for funding, employment, evaluation).

Do that, and we'll soon have 100% OA for articles, and then all the
rest will follow too.

Keep running off in all directions, as we've been doing for 10 years
now, and we'll keep getting nowhere, fast.

A word to the wise, from the wizened...

Chrs, Stevan