From: "Jan Erik Frantsvåg" <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2017 06:27:18 +0000

Thanks for reading my post, Rick - and responding to it!

Of course, there are still single journal purchases around, but the
large money is spent on packages. And packaging can motivate sellers
to create low-level (to say the least) journals to stuff the package
with. I was responding to a point on traditional publishers, as
opposed to OA publishers, not having any motivation to create
low-quality jornals – in my opinion this motive exists, especially for
package sellers.

The financial burden: A matter of scale here. Of course, APCs to scam
journals present a burden, but I have never seen any calculations
showing this burden to be near the level of burden the super-profits
of major publishers are. Super-profits are burdens, APCs to scam
publishers are more on the level of financial nuisances. So for "the
burden",  stress the "the" to make it "the important burden". If you
have any fresh numbers on the total of APCs paid to scam publishers,
I'd be happy to get a link. It merits close following.

Best,
Jan Erik

Jan Erik Frantsvåg
Open Access Adviser
The University Library
UiT The Arctic University of Norway
phone +47 77 64 49 50
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From: Rick Anderson <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2017 01:30:33 +0000

>a. Librarians now choose between packages, not journals. And packages
>may be stuffed with low-quality journals, in order to show an increase
>in titles and articles to justify price increases.

I’m surprised by how often this inaccurate statement is repeated in
forums like this. While it’s certainly true that libraries regularly
buy journals in packages (both comprehensive publisher Big Deals and
smaller, subject-specific packages), it is not true that libraries are
no longer buying individual journal subscriptions. At my institution,
for example, we have a Big Deal package with Elsevier, and large
subject packages with several other publishers. But we also have more
than 1,000 individual journal subscriptions, and we make choices
between individual journal subscriptions on a pretty much constant
basis. This is also the case at every other research library of which
I’m aware.

>b. Predatory: There cannot be any doubt that the financial burden upon
>science does not currently lie in APCs to dubious journals, but in the
>profit margins of major publishers like Elsevier (nearly 1 billion GBP
>2016).

I think you’re proposing a false dichotomy, Jan-Erik. Why can only one
of these things be “the financial burden”? Can’t subscription charges
and APCs charged by scam journals both be “financial burden(s)” upon
science?

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Library, University of Utah
Desk: (801) 587-9989
Cell: (801) 721-1687
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