From: Joseph Esposito <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2017 13:16:00 -0500

The reason these errors arise is that the administration is hard to
do. It has to be done manually, requiring putting an individual in
charge of it, a cost for which there may be no incremental revenue
attached. The administrative costs for OA just keep growing. This is a
bad idea whose time has come.

Having said this, no publisher should commit to do this unless they
are prepared to implement the systems to make it happen. That's
Business Ethics 101, and has nothing to do with OA or even publishing.

Joe Esposito

On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 10:12 PM, LIBLICENSE <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> From: David Prosser <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2017 09:00:34 +0000
>
> I’m sure that many of you will have already see the analysis of Ross
> Mounce showing that a number of papers in hybrid journals where fees
> have been paid to make the papers open access are being placed behind
> paywalls on the publishers site:
>
> http://rossmounce.co.uk/2017/02/20/hybrid-open-access-is-unreliable/
>
> That post focusses on Elsevier, but he has found other examples at
> many other publishers (most recently OUP).
>
> We know that library colleagues spend a lot of time checking to ensure
> that where the institution has paid an APC for publication in a hybrid
> journal the paper is actually open access.  Obviously, some cases slip
> through and Ross has spotted them.  But is it really the
> responsibility of librarians and independent researches such as Ross
> to police these issues.  Surely if one has paid - royally, in many
> cases - one should expect to get the service one pays for?  The
> disturbing thing is that this comes up every year or so and the
> response is usually ‘we’re working on it’ - but it should be fixed by
> now.
>
> There is also a wider issue.  We are often told that we can rely on
> publisher-driven services such as CHORUS to fulfil funder OA mandates.
> But if publishers don’t know the correct status of the papers they
> publish (and for which they have received money) how can institutions
> have any faith in these services?
>
> David Prosser