From: Zac Rolnik <[log in to unmask]> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 21:44:42 -0400 Dear Wilhelmina, I think that individuals who really want the content will buy it for exactly the reasons you state -- they want the most current and complete version and don't look for pirated copies. I definitely believe that libraries do not want to deal in pirated copies, but I may be wrong. There are individuals who will find the pirated copies and download them, even knowing they are illegal copies, who would never have bought the proper version. And I agree that the pirated version is an advertisement for future issues, not an encouragement to buy a replacement of the ILLEGAL version they took off the web. Specifically to your reference to now publishers, each one of our issues is a commissioned review/survey of a major topic in the literature written by experts in their field who have made important contribution to their field of research. We pay our authors, we pay our reviewers, we copyedit, typeset and include reference linking in each contribution. This costs us money -- lots of money -- and piracy does have a negative impact on our business. In addition, we allow authors to retain copyright allowing them to deposit on their institutional repository, etc. We were one of the first publishers to participate in SERU, our license agreement is one of the most liberal in the business including unlimited concurrent usage, unlimited downloads and perpetual access with no annual maintenance fees, and we have made every effort to comply with current library standards. While we are a commercial entity, we are try to do well by doing good and if you ask any of our authors or editors I think they will agree. As I stated earlier we do not have the resources to effectively fight piracy and we hope the scholarly communications community realizes the cost to small publishers and continues to support our efforts. Thank you for the opportunity to explain myself. Zac Rolnik now publishers -----Original Message----- From: LibLicense-L Discussion Forum Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 8:28 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re. Copyright Math and Scholarly Publishers From: Wilhelmina Randtke <[log in to unmask]> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 19:41:05 -0500 Dear Zac Rolnik (and other readers) Why do you think customers will want to buy the version of record? This is an honest question, not a challenge. With the types of reports published on nowpublishers.com , the only advantage I can see to going and getting a report direct from you is that it will be the most current version or the most current report on that topic. So, I can see each pirated report being an advertisement for different reports on a similar topic, but not a reason to go and buy that same exact report. -Wilhelmina Randtke On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 5:15 PM, LIBLICENSE <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > From: Zac Rolnik <[log in to unmask]> > Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 15:47:28 -0400 > > Sorry for the late response to this interesting question, but I have > been traveling.... > > In terms of the piracy issue, while it is annoying for smaller > publishers we simply do not have the resources to fight it. When we > find a pirated version of one of our titles, we immediately go to the > source and they typically take it down, for it only to pop up > somewhere else. Very frustrating. So this is one issue where we try > and let the big publishers (who have more skin in the game) take the > lead and we act as free-riders. In addition, there are some who think > for a small publisher it might actually serve to promote our titles, > since most of our customers want to buy the version of record and > those who get pirated copies would probably never buy it anyway - but > might encourage their colleagues and libraries to look at it. > > Zac Rolnik > now publishers > >