From: George Porter <[log in to unmask]> Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2012 02:06:34 +0000 UCSF is a graduate-level biomedical campus. Rockefeller University is the closest equivalent I can think of. There are humanities and social sciences departments affected by the UCSF policy. George S. Porter Sherman Fairchild Library of Engineering and Applied Science Caltech, 1-43 Pasadena, CA 91125-4300 On 6/7/12 5:49 PM, "LIBLICENSE" <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > From: Sandy Thatcher <[log in to unmask]> > Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 23:27:56 -0500 > > I don't consider it a "minor" point. Some institutions, in fact, have > established OA policies only for certain parts. Harvard, for example, > has an OA policy that applies to its Faculty of Arts and Sciences. I'm > not aware that it is a university-wide policy that applies also, for > example, to the Business School or the Law School. At Stanford it was > the School of Education that first adopted an OA policy. > > The announcement mentions "scientific" throughout. One would never > know, without reading the actual policy, that it applies to the > humanities and social sciences as well. I consider that a failure to > properly communicate the actual facts of the policy. > > Sandy Thatcher > > > At 8:05 PM -0400 6/6/12, LIBLICENSE wrote: > >> From: Klaus Graf <[log in to unmask]> >> Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 13:04:27 +0200 >> >> I do not think it is helpful to discuss such minor points. It is clear >> enough that OA mandates refer to the scholarly output (in the field of >> science and arts/humanities) of an institution. Mandates are >> self-obligations, not legal texts. >> >> I cannot find that "final version" is'nt clear. If the "version of >> record" can be used it can be deposited - otherwise only the "final >> draft" (version after peer review if a peer review was performed). So >> there is no doubt that this is an Green OA approach. >> >> Klaus Graf >> >> >> 2012/6/5 LIBLICENSE <[log in to unmask]>: >>> >>> From: Sandy Thatcher <[log in to unmask]> >>> Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 23:44:58 -0500 >>> >>> This press release emphasizes "scientific articles," but the policy >>> itself is not limited to articles in the sciences but to all faculty >>> articles of any kind. >>> >>> The policy refers to the "final version" of the article, but provides >>> no definition of what that term means. So, is this a Green OA >>> approach, or not? >>> >>> It would be helpful if such policies and their accompanying press >>> releases were written with greater clarity. >>> >>> Sandy Thatcher