From: David Prosser <[log in to unmask]> Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 12:21:16 +0100 Some data from Cara Kaufman that she is happy for me to share with the list: $7/page for basic copyediting (spelling, grammar, acronyms, references) $25/page for more thoughtful editing (basic plus reorganization, some rewriting) Hope that helps… Cara Cara Kaufman | Managing Partner 24 Aintree Road | Baltimore MD 21286 410 821 8035 office | 410 812 5460 mobile [log in to unmask] | www.kwfco.com KWF is the leading management consultancy serving the scholarly publishing community. We offer a full range of professional services including strategy and innovation, epublishing and new media, and marketing and market research. KWF also assists clients with global rights and licensing, change management and productivity, and employee recruitment. KWF Editorial Services provides managing editor services on a contractual basis. On 14 Jun 2012, at 09:44, David Prosser wrote: For the purposes of comparison, could somebody point us to good figures for the average amount (per page, say) spent on copyediting by a solid, middle-tier journal? Not the very top-end journals, but one you might find somewhere half-way down (or up) its category in the journal citation rankings. Thanks, David On 13 Jun 2012, at 23:13, LIBLICENSE wrote: From: Sandy Thatcher <[log in to unmask]> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 01:20:26 -0500 Ok, I have read all of these articles now, and I see absolutely no mention of one important cost factor that does not go away when one moves from a TA to an OA model: copyediting. How, one wonders, does PeerJ expect to provide professional copyediting for an author who pays only $259 for a life membership when that is about what it would cost to edit a single article? Can this new business plan really work if copyediting is provided to an author for multiple articles over time whose cost for editing will surely exceed, by multiples, the initial membership fee? Or is there no mention of this because copyediting will be a "value added" service for which authors will have to pay an extra fee each time beyond the membership fee? The "pre-prints" of course will not be copyedited, but surely PeerJ cannot expect to sustain itself as a high-quality journal if it does not provide first-rate copyediting for the "versions of record." Sandy Thatcher