From: Joseph Esposito <[log in to unmask]> Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 11:31:12 -0700 It's really troubling to see all these discussions taking place as though the only thing that matters is short-term cost and revenue projections. Does everyone really think the world does not change from time to time? It is simply not in a research university's interest to support OA, green, gold, or any other flavor. Most research is produced at a small number of institutions; OA is in the interest of organizations (most colleges and universities, the corporate sector, and government and NGOs) that don't produce the research. There is a total absence of strategic thinking here. So what's the scenario? Major research university X gives away its intellectual property and then cuts faculty for lack of funding. Ridiculous. Joe Esposito On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 3:31 PM, LIBLICENSE <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > From: Richard Poynder <[log in to unmask]> > Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 00:19:29 +0100 > > An interview with the Vice-Provost (Research) at University College > London, Professor David Price. > > Some quotes: > > "Economic modelling shows that, for research universities, the Green > route to OA is more cost effective than the Gold. Under Gold Research > Councils and Universities will have to find millions of pounds in > existing budgets to fund OA charges. That means that some things will > have to stop to make the necessary monies available." > > "The Finch recommendations are not good news for the Humanities, whose > unit of publication is characteristically the research monograph. Who > will publish Gold OA monographs, and who will pay for them?" > > "The result of the Finch recommendations would be to cripple > university systems with extra expense. Finch is certainly a cure to > the problem of access, but is it not a cure which is actually worse > than the disease?" > > "What Finch should have done is to model Green and Gold together, to > see which works out cheaper. A forthcoming report from the JISC's Open > Access Implementation Group on the impact of APC charges on > universities does this - and comes up with a different scenario to > Finch." > > David Price's message to UK Minister for Universities and Science > David Willetts: "Listen to UCL's response to Finch and carry on > talking to get the best transitional model from where we are now to a > fully OA world. The Finch recommendations are only part of the > answer." > > More here: > > http://poynder.blogspot.co.uk/2012/06/finch-report-ucls-david-price-responds.html