From: David Prosser <[log in to unmask]> Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2012 13:58:54 +0100 Joe Research university X already gives away its intellectual property and then spends much more than non-research universities in buying access to the intellectual property of other research universities. Where's the strategic thinking there? And of course, a lot of the research done isn't paid for by the universities themselves - it's paid for by research funders such as NIH in the US and the Research Councils in the UK. For the NIH to ensure that NIH-funded researcher in University N has access to research outputs generated by NIH-funded researcher at University M looks to me the epitome of strategic thinking. David On 23 Jun 2012, at 04:00, LIBLICENSE wrote: > From: Joseph Esposito <[log in to unmask]> > Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 11:31:12 -0700 > > It's really troubling to see all these discussions taking place as > though the only thing that matters is short-term cost and revenue > projections. Does everyone really think the world does not change > from time to time? It is simply not in a research university's > interest to support OA, green, gold, or any other flavor. Most > research is produced at a small number of institutions; OA is in the > interest of organizations (most colleges and universities, the > corporate sector, and government and NGOs) that don't produce the > research. There is a total absence of strategic thinking here. > > So what's the scenario? Major research university X gives away its > intellectual property and then cuts faculty for lack of funding. > Ridiculous. > > Joe Esposito > > On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 3:31 PM, LIBLICENSE <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> From: Richard Poynder <[log in to unmask]> >> Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 00:19:29 +0100 >> >> An interview with the Vice-Provost (Research) at University College >> London, Professor David Price. >> >> Some quotes: >> >> "Economic modelling shows that, for research universities, the Green >> route to OA is more cost effective than the Gold. Under Gold Research >> Councils and Universities will have to find millions of pounds in >> existing budgets to fund OA charges. That means that some things will >> have to stop to make the necessary monies available." >> >> "The Finch recommendations are not good news for the Humanities, whose >> unit of publication is characteristically the research monograph. Who >> will publish Gold OA monographs, and who will pay for them?" >> >> "The result of the Finch recommendations would be to cripple >> university systems with extra expense. Finch is certainly a cure to >> the problem of access, but is it not a cure which is actually worse >> than the disease?" >> >> "What Finch should have done is to model Green and Gold together, to >> see which works out cheaper. A forthcoming report from the JISC's Open >> Access Implementation Group on the impact of APC charges on >> universities does this - and comes up with a different scenario to >> Finch." >> >> David Price's message to UK Minister for Universities and Science >> David Willetts: "Listen to UCL's response to Finch and carry on >> talking to get the best transitional model from where we are now to a >> fully OA world. The Finch recommendations are only part of the >> answer." >> >> More here: >> >> http://poynder.blogspot.co.uk/2012/06/finch-report-ucls-david-price-responds.html