From: Richard Poynder <[log in to unmask]> Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 13:34:10 +0100 Subject: Re: The Finch Report: UCL's David Price Responds Anthony, Paul Ayris' views on this topic can be read here: http://poynder.blogspot.fr/2012/06/finch-report-in-global-open-access.html A quote: "Where does the Finch view sit in a global OA world? A new report by John Houghton and Alma Swan, financed by the JISC and to be published imminently, takes a different look at the OA debate. “Houghton and Swan have undertaken detailed economic modelling, something missing from Finch, to compare the costs of Green and Gold Open Access if a university unilaterally opted for either of these routes, or if the whole world changed to either Green or Gold. "Their analysis tells us a lot about the difficulties of transition to a fully OA environment. Their conclusion is that, for universities, at the present time the most cost effective route is for a University to opt for Green OA. Should the whole world turn OA, then their modelling supports Finch, in that the biggest saving for a University would come from Gold (Chart 23 in the forthcoming Report)." By the way, I do not think others agree that the LERU Roadmap is consistent with the recommendations of the Finch Report, as you seem to imply. See here for instance: http://poynder.blogspot.co.uk/2012/06/finch-report-in-global-open-access.htmlshowComment=1340622582152#c1050690665416819839 Richard Poynder >> From: Anthony Watkinson <[log in to unmask]> Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 10:18:57 +0100 This time I did read through your advocacy piece Richard and did not find anything particularly special in David Price's remarks. I could not help comparing them with the excellent and balanced speech to the PA made by David Willetts. It goes against the grain to find anything good in the present UK government but I do in this case. My impression is those pressing for OA, at least among the library sector and even within UCL, have moved on. A roadmap has been produced by the information officers of the League of European Research Universities (LERU). This organisation is chaired by none other than Paul Ayris of UCL, an Open Access advocate. I think it is an excellent document (on the whole) and suggests the ways in which major research intensive universities might move OA forward in a sustainable way. It has not been much promoted or commented on and I would now like to bring it to general attention: see: http://www.leru.org/files/publications/LERU_AP8_Open_Access.pdf . It does consider the special problem within the humanities. Anthony