From: Sandy Thatcher <[log in to unmask]> Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 23:07:19 -0500 Are you just misinformed, Ari? There are a number of universities that run their own distribution operations and also have presses that operate them, such as Chicago, Cornell, Johns Hopkins, North Carolina, etc. Even as small a press as Penn State runs its own warehouse and fulfills orders from bookstores, libraries, and individuals. Why do you think universities are incapable of operating such businesses? Sandy Thatcher > From: Ari Belenkiy <[log in to unmask]> > Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 22:04:42 -0700 > > Well, Sandy - if you were answering my comment, you misfired. > > You replaced my word "distribution" by your "publishing". > > A University is a king on its own territory and has no facilities to > distribute outside. It has to deal with distributors. It will cost > cheaper but not that much. > > I remember that before I was printing a book I was offered by a > distributor to give up my rights for 10% of expected revenue, but when > I printed it on my own I was offered just a bit more - 20%. > > Ari Belenkiy > > Richmond BC > > On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 7:02 PM, LIBLICENSE <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> From: Sandy Thatcher <[log in to unmask]> >> Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 08:17:56 -0500 >> >> Really? All the university presses in England count for nothing? What >> an extraordinary claim! >> >> Sandy Thatcher >> >> >> > From: Ari Belenkiy <[log in to unmask]> >> > Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2012 23:04:01 -0700 >> > >> > But David, Finch made it clear that Universities lack the means for >> > distribution of its faculty's works. >> > >> > This is the vocation of publishers who reap the dividends. > > > > > > > That's why the authors of the books receive only 10% of revenue - the > > > rest goes to a publisher. > > > > > > Ari Belenkiy > > > Richmond BC > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 7:04 PM, LIBLICENSE <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> >> > >> >> From: David Prosser <[log in to unmask]> >> >> Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2012 13:58:54 +0100 >> >> >> >> Joe >> >> >> >> Research university X already gives away its intellectual property and >> >> then spends much more than non-research universities in buying access >> >> to the intellectual property of other research universities. Where's >> >> the strategic thinking there? >> >> >> >> And of course, a lot of the research done isn't paid for by the >> >> universities themselves - it's paid for by research funders such as >> >> NIH in the US and the Research Councils in the UK. For the NIH to >> >> ensure that NIH-funded researcher in University N has access to >> >> research outputs generated by NIH-funded researcher at University M >> >> looks to me the epitome of strategic thinking. >> > >> > > >> > > David