From: Joseph Esposito <[log in to unmask]> Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 20:17:14 -0400 I wouldn't worry too much about increases in article prices for Gold author-pays OA. Those prices are bound to drop quite a bit. It's a commodity business: one hosting service is as good as another. You could be selling bags of rice. Joe Esposito On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 5:33 PM, LIBLICENSE <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > From: ANTHONY WATKINSON <[log in to unmask]> > Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 10:06:17 +0000 > > Has anyone worked out cost per article increases? I am sure there has > been an increase and I would not be surprised if it was over (US) > inflation? > > Anthony > > ________________________________ > From: Dan Scott <[log in to unmask]> > Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 13:47:47 +0000 > > I thought the video was engaging and had good visual impact. I liked the > animation. > > I disagree somewhat with Sandy's views. The increase in submitted output was > ruthlessly exploited by publishers: firstly, by hiking prices of existing > journals to disproportionate levels; secondly, by using the advent of online > databases to produce more and more journals, which may or may not be of high > quality. Bulking up the overall journal numbers allowed publishers to charge > ever-higher prices on the basis that there was extra content; and thirdly, > annual percentage increases are often way above inflation. There are other > things wrong within scholarly publishing that contribute to the situation we > are in (such as the conflation between journal citations and research > funding), but in the case of pricing I think the traditional publishers are > the main culprits. > > I've worked with libraries all over the world and under-funding has never > been a major complaint; rather, that budgets will simply never keep pace > with the insatiable demands of subscriptions. > > I agree that article processing charges that are set too high risk becoming > barriers in their own right. > > DAN SCOTT > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sandy Thatcher <[log in to unmask]> > Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 15:01:48 -0500 > > A useful video to explain the basics of open access to people who haven't > heard about it before, but as a publisher I naturally find that it > oversimplifies some important points. E.g., it implies that publishers alone > are to blame for the increasing costs (and hence > prices) of publishing scientific articles, without mentioning anywhere the > rate of increase in the production of articles by scientists who want to get > them published and the reaction by publishers to launch new journals and > expand the size of already existing ones. Nor does it mention the practice > of universities underfunding both their libraries and their own presses > (while they are happy to spend lots more on football and basketball teams). > > The question of how taxpayer-funded research can best be disseminated in > unrestricted form is never addressed either, such as the longstanding > proposal to require that all researchers be required to submit final reports > and that those reports be made freely available immediately upon submission. > And while it acknowledges that publishing costs money, there is no > acknowledgment that OA approaches may exacerbate some problems--like drawing > money out of research funding to support article publication charges--while > ameliorating others. Hence I would hardly call this video a balanced > presentation. > > Sandy Thatcher > > > > From: Ken Masters <[log in to unmask]> > > Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 19:46:06 +0400 > > > > Hi All > > > > You might find this recent video on Open Access interesting: > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=L5rVH1KGBCY#! > > > > Regards > > > > Ken > > > > Dr. Ken Masters > > Asst. Professor: Medical Informatics > > Medical Education Unit > > College of Medicine & Health Sciences > > Sultan Qaboos University > > Sultanate of Oman