From: Ari Belenkiy <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 17:21:54 -0700

This is indeed the case for the string theory, Sandy. (You misspelled my
name though). And some physicists (like Lee Smolin) often raise their voice
on that issue.

But despite of this drawback (of being ambivalent on the status of the
string theory), Physics is a science. It falsified many theories, starting
with those by Aristotle and finishing with recent steady-state theory (of
continuous creation).

While again - I have never heard that Political science disproved anything.
Even Marx's theory still flourishes, though probably is less visible than
at its heyday.

Ari Belenkiy


On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 4:29 PM, LIBLICENSE <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> From: Sandy Thatcher <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 00:53:20 -0500
>
> By Mr. Belensky's definition, superstring theory cannot be
> "scientific"  since there are currently no ways of experimentally
> verifying or disconfirming it.  Much of physical cosmology would also
> be ruled out under his definition.
>
> Sandy Thatcher
>
>
> > From: Ari Belenkiy <[log in to unmask]>
> > Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 23:29:24 -0700
> >
> > Science - by definition - is the field, which allows for replicating
> > experiments. You can demonstrate you statement again and again.
> >
> > Politics denies even a possibility of replication of any experiment.
> > For example, there is nothing in politics which is considered
> > disproved.
> >
> > Therefore attaching to it the word "science" is an oxymoron.
> > "Political science" is simply a venue to produce political coterie.
> > Cum grano salis, I would compare it with Hollywood.
> >
> > True, NSF may sponsor science fiction movies. It also may sponsor
> > political science "research" and thus the future politicians who argue
> > for increase of funding of ... NSF. A vicious circle?
> >
> > Ari Belenkiy
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 8:19 PM, LIBLICENSE <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>  From: "Ivie, Thomas" <[log in to unmask]>
> >>  Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 09:29:58 -0700
> >>
> >>  Isn't the study of a subject, like politics, a science? The study of
> >>  politics employs a variety of methodologies that lead to quantitative
> >>  analyses. To me, this infers that the science would be in the
> >>  methodologies used and the discovery of outcomes. Sure, there is plenty
> >>  of subjectivity in the social sciences, but there is a great deal of
> >>  objectivity that is backed by quantitative methods. I think it could be
> >>  argued that even though a subject isn't studied at the cellular,
> >>  molecular, compound level, etc., it can still be studied
> scientifically.
> >>  Science really is the effort to understand, or at least try to
> >>  understand, by using observable evidence. Some would argue that it is
> >>  understood through the observation of "natural" evidence. What is
> >
> >  > natural?  Can politics be studied by the observation of natural
> >  > evidence? Are behaviors part of nature? I know this discussion is a
> bit
> >  > off the LibLicense topic, but it did make me think about what a
> science
> >>
> >>  is and left me with a few questions as well.
> >>
> >>  Thomas Ivie, M.P.A., M.S.L.S.
> >>
> >>  -----Original Message-----
> >>
> >>  From: Ari Belenkiy <[log in to unmask]>
> >>  Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 15:19:19 -0700
> >>
> >>  "Political science" is not a science but politics. Perhaps good that it
> >>  is not to be funded anymore by NSF.
> >>
> >>  Ari Belenkiy
>