From: Francesca Musina <[log in to unmask]> Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 16:40:20 +0100 I agree, I think it is important that our needs and our objections are clear to publishers, although it has little to no effect (for the moment). The subject of post-cancellation access is of great importance, especially at a time of large budget cuts for universities. Francesca Francesca Musina Università degli Studi di Torino Direzione Ricerca, Relazioni Internazionali, Biblioteche e Musei Biblioteca Digitale [log in to unmask] Il 19.03.2013 02:44 LIBLICENSE ha scritto: > From: "Sterk, J.M.E." <[log in to unmask]> > Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 11:10:20 +0000 > > To sign a contract under protest has no legal value whatsoever. We do > add to the email or letter we send together with the signed license a > sentence stating that we de do not agree with the license. We do sign > it in order to get access to the journal(s) for our patrons. Every > time we subscribe to a new journal we discuss the same matter again > prior to the receipt and signing of the license. It has little to no > effect, but at least they are aware of our objections. > > Best regards, > > José Sterk > > -----Original Message----- > From: Joseph Esposito <[log in to unmask]> > Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 10:24:03 +0100 > > Subject: Re: About Nature post-cancellation policy > > I can't speak to the particulars of Nature's contracts and know > nothing about the fees, but what does it mean to sign a contract under > protest? A contract is a contract. > > Joe Esposito > > > On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 10:28 PM, LIBLICENSE <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> From: "Sterk, J.M.E." <[log in to unmask]> >> Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 16:23:12 +0000 >> >> Dear colleagues, >> >> Indeed, the new policy of charging an annual post-cancellation fee was >> introduced in 2006. We did have long discussions with Nature, but in >> the end we signed the licenses under protest. And each year with >> renewals and new subscriptions we discussed it, again without result, >> and we went ahead and signed under protest. The amount of the fee >> however is not mentioned in the license. We had to ask specifically >> and just recently received the overview of the different fees. >> >> Best regards, >> >> José Sterk >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Joseph Esposito <[log in to unmask]> >> Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 11:12:17 +0100 >> >> Were these cancellation fees stated in the contract your institution >> originally signed? I have never seen a Nature contract and am simply >> wondering if this is new deal point raised after a contract has been >> signed or something that was disclosed and agreed to up front. >> >> Joe Esposito