From: Mary Summerfield <[log in to unmask]> Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 22:24:40 +0000 What are acceptable forms of post-cancellation rights for e-publications? Mary Summerfield Publications Business Development Manager SPIE [log in to unmask] -----Original Message----- From: "Prestamo, Anne" <[log in to unmask]> Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2013 21:42:05 +0000 We continue to get ~800 titles in print, and about 1/3 of those are print+online subscriptions. We would very much prefer to be entirely e-only, but are frustrated by publishers that do not offer acceptable options. Some examples that cause us to keep print: 1) Institutional e-only subscription is many times the cost of a print institutional subscription. 2) Publisher's version of "electronic" is unacceptable. For example, they email you a PDF of each issue. Sorry, just don't want to go there. 3) No IP authentication. 4) There is no online version offered. 5) No post-cancellation rights for e-only. If the cost of a print+online sub is equal to, or no more than 10% higher, we get both. If higher than 10% to add the online access we get print only. When we get both we no longer shelve nor bind the print issues. They are held in a processing area until we have a complete volume, boxed, and sent to storage. Anne Prestamo Claud D. Kniffin Professor of Library Service and Education Associate Dean for Collection and Technology Services Oklahoma State University Libraries Email: [log in to unmask] -----Original Message----- From: Anthony Watkinson <[log in to unmask]> I would also be interested to learn from libraries. Most of us know that libraries do not have sufficient funding to keep up with the costs of the increased level of publication. At the moment this is mainly the cost of subscriptions. They really do want to save on costs. How much print do they retain? I cannot find a revenue from print line in the AAP survey since the 2010 one which showed a surprisingly high percentage but if Paula Gantz sees this she can tell us what the picture is now. Looking at revenue from the publisher end as in these surveys might give a better take that library based surveys breaking out print. We also know that most scholars in most fields hardly ever visit the library and when they do it is not to look for journal articles which they access on their lists. Even if libraries do not have to pay extra for print they still have the extra handling and space problems that print brings with it. As Cliff Lynch pointed out a few years ago for the great majority of publications there is no danger of the digital version disappearing though there are problems still over securing continued access - though this is surely receding. There are a lot of assertions here but I can provide evidence (surveys) if needed. I know that humanities are different but in terms of costs and numbers of journals they represent a small part of the whole. Anthony