From: Joseph Esposito <[log in to unmask]> Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2013 19:49:47 -0400 "Open access truly does open another world."--Yes, and closes the window to others. Joe Esposito On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 7:07 PM, LIBLICENSE <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > From: Jan Velterop <[log in to unmask]> > Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2013 09:29:40 +0200 > > > This is rather beside the point, Anthony, I'm afraid. No publisher is > expected to willingly give up a source of income. That's why it is so > surprising some publishers seem to be in favour of CC-BY-NC and even > lobby their authors. Selling reprints, or even print versions in the > case of hybrid journals, is in breach of the NC clause. > > However, there is a very simple solution: the CC-BY licence. That one > does allow the sales of reprints and print versions. And so preserves > that source of income for the publisher. Of course, anybody would be > able to do that; not just the original publisher of the material. > That's open access. On the other hand, even with CC-BY-NC, the pharma > industry has full access to the articles anyway and may give away the > urls to those articles to anybody they like. > > Open access truly does open another world. > > Jan Velterop > > On 2 Apr 2013, at 01:10, LIBLICENSE <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > From: Anthony Watkinson <[log in to unmask]> > > Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 21:58:02 +0100 > > > > From what I know of David's career in publishing, I do not imagine he > > has ever had to make a decision to give up a source of income which > > for some publishers ( probably not T&F ) is important for some > > journals, and it is a long time since I might have been involved. > > > > I wonder what he would do? Perhaps he could tell us - hypothetically > > of course. What to me is interesting is the lack of discussion about > > the complete removal of a source of income to the the scholarly > > communication process from big pharma (users rather than contributors > > of papers) under an OA scenario. Freeloading or free riding used to be > > much discussed. > > > > Anthony