Thank you for this useful digest of a complex discussion.

Just one point where I fully agree with Stevan Harnad: libraries should not choose preferentially to cancel green journals; after all, green journals are being more or less cooperative in accepting to fall under the green label (I will leave aside the various green flavours). On the other hand, journals that refuse any collaboration with the green strategy, i.e. that refuse any form of self-archiving or impose unreasonable embargoes, could be usefully targeted. That ought to help the green strategy quite a bit.

I realize that some of these recalcitrant journals may be highly desirable from the researchers' perspective, but that would open the possibility of a useful, pedagogic, dialogue between librarians and researchers. The latter, let us remember, ignore (and often remain intent on ignoring) the pain of licence prices.

Jean-Claude Guédon