From: David Macaulay <[log in to unmask]> Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2013 18:09:02 +0000 Hello all, Concordia University is looking into a subscription to TLG (Thesaurus Linguae Graecae), published by University of California at Irvine, but we are having some problems with the license. There are a number of changes we would like to have made, mainly involving inclusion of references to Canadian and Quebec law - but most importantly, there is one sweeping restriction on usage that we feel is unenforceable as well as contrary to fair use/dealing: "Licensee may not under any circumstances download, print, make copies of and/or distribute TLG materials". Actually there was a typo in the original text, forbdding us to "print make copies" - this was the only thing they agreed to change! The only mitigating factor here may be that "authorized users" are not mentioned in this statement. Other statements of permitted and restricted uses refer to "Licensee and Authorized Users". I find the distinction difficult to sustain, however. Looking into the Liblicense-L archives, I see that there was some discussion in 2002 regarding changes to the indemnity clause. I am wondering about the more recent experience of other institutions with this publisher. Have other libraries signed the agreement that includes the above restriction? Do others see this clause as problematic? Has anyone been able to negotiate changes to the standard TLG agreement? David Macaulay Electronic Resources Librarian Concordia University Libraries Montreal QC H3G 1M8 [log in to unmask]