From: David Prosser <[log in to unmask]> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2014 15:58:15 +0000 As has been noted, Nature Communications stopped taking non-OA submission on 20th October. After that date everything submitted and accepted will be Open Access. Some of those pre-20 October, non-OA submissions will take time to go through the review/revise/publish process and they will not appear until 2015 - so Nature Communications will still be a hybrid journal until some point in the New Year when the last pre-20 October paper is published. Nature wants to charge subscribers for the non-OA material published in 2015. I have sympathy with that position. What I find odd is what Nature is charging. For the UK the subscription price of Nature Communications in 2015 will be a few percent higher than the price in 2014. I know the journal is growing, but Communications is a relatively rapid publication journal. The vast majority of pre-20 October non-OA papers will be published in the first half of next year. It is hard to believe that Nature Communications will publish more non-OA content in 2015 that in 2014 - it may in fact be significantly less. But the price is going up. Shirley raises the interesting issue of the non-OA archive. Now that the journal is moving to fully-OA I I would think that it makes sense to open the whole archive and make the non-OA papers retrospectively OA. Would any library that has subscribed to Nature Communications over the past five years object to that? I suppose that Nature may lose some pay-per-view revenue, but I imagine that would be a decreasing amount over time? David On 4 Nov 2014, at 00:06, LIBLICENSE <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: From: Rick Anderson <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2014 13:53:51 +0000 Shirley, can you tell us what it means that you¹re ³expected to renew (your) subscription²? If the journal is fully OA, then regardless of what Nature expects or wants you to do, you will have access to all future content whether you renew or not. Is it possible that you¹re being invited to renew your print subscription? --- Rick Anderson Assoc. Dean for Scholarly Resources & Collections Marriott Library, University of Utah [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> On 11/2/14, 10:05 AM, "LIBLICENSE" <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: >From: Shirley Ainsworth <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> >Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2014 12:06:18 -0600 > >I guess many will have heard that Nature Communications has been >transformed from a hybrid journal to fully OA from 20th October this >year. > >However I must admit that I was somewhat surprised to find out that we >are expected to renew our subscription to the journal for 2015 , and >that the price is the same as for 2014. > >How does this work? > >Authors pay APCs from now on, libraries have to keep paying >subscriptions, and to boot the pre-October 2014 (subscription) journal >articles will never be free and will be subject to the dread Nature >post-cancellation policy that has been discussed at some length on >this list. > >Anyone else perplexed by this? > >Shirley > >-- >Shirley Ainsworth >Bibliotecaria/Librarian >Instituto de Biotecnologia, UNAM >Cuernavaca, Morelos, Mexico. >[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>