From: Sandy Thatcher <[log in to unmask]> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2014 20:56:58 -0600 Would it be all that difficult to do a survey of faculty and ask them which of the journals in a package they use regularly, or not at all? Does any library now do this? Sandy Thatcher > From: Karin Wikoff <[log in to unmask]> > Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2014 07:35:58 -0500 > > For us, we'd only be likely to notice if something our users use > regularly disappears. 20 journals no one uses could disappear, and we > probably wouldn't notice. But if the one journal some faculty member > uses all the time disappeared, then there'd be a big problem. It's a > good question, and not one I'd given a lot of thought. I'll be > interested to read other folks' replies. > > Karin > > Karin Wikoff > Electronic and Technical Services Librarian > Ithaca College Library > 953 Danby Rd > Ithaca, NY 14850 > > Phone: 1-607-274-1364 > Fax: 1-607-274-1539 > Email: [log in to unmask] > > > > On 12/16/2014 8:17 PM, LIBLICENSE wrote: > > From: Ann Shumelda Okerson <[log in to unmask]> > Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2014 20:15:48 -0500 > > Dear liblicense-l readers. Your listowner/moderator (me) has a > question for you. I would very much welcome the views of anyone on > this list, whether publisher or librarian or someone in the scholarly > communications chain. There's no right answer; in fact, I'm not sure > there is even an answer, but I was in a group that started discussing > this matter and we felt caught short. And we felt we should have a > reasoned opinion, when we did not. Please read on. > > Most many big deal journal packages contain language [such as that > below] re. modification to "portions of the Licensed Materials." The > contracts say that if any of the changes make the materials less > useful, the institutions may seek to terminate this agreement for > breach. And, there will likely be language of this sort: "If any such > withdrawal renders the Licensed Materials less useful to Licensee or > its Authorised Users, Licensor shall reimburse XX for the withdrawal > in an amount proportional to the total Fees owed." > > My question is this: if my library has a "big [or medium] deal," > let's pretend it's 300 or 500 or 1000 or 2000 titles, what is a > reasonable expectation for the numbers or percentage of content that > will leave the package before the library or consortium would either > seek reimbursement (more likely) or total termination (less likely)? > > Do libraries (or consortia) review the big-deal lists each year to look > for changes? Every 3 years? If there were a loss of previous titles > in the amount of 5%, would it be a concern? How about 10%? > > Of if not a percentage "bright line," then what would cause a review > of the list and a concerned conversation with the big deal publisher? > Would it be the loss of a couple of absolutely key titles? the loss > of a particular smaller publisher's journals list? a disciplinary > impact? a dollar impact? If "it depends," what does it depend on? > > Do libraries care very much about what's actually in these large > packages, or are we too busy to pay attention to their changes? What > would it take to get libraries' attention? > > Thank you, Ann Okerson > > > ******* > > "Notification of Modifications of Licensed Materials. From time to > time, Licensor may add, change, or modify portions of the Licensed > Materials, or migrate the Licensed Materials to other formats. When > such changes, modifications, or migrations occur, the Licensor shall > give notice of any such changes to Authorized Institutions as soon as > is practicable, but in no event less than thirty (30) days in advance > of modification. If any of the changes, modifications, or migrations > renders the Licensed Materials substantially less useful to the > Authorized Institutions or its Authorized Users, the Authorized > Institutions may seek to terminate this Agreement for breach pursuant > to the termination provisions of this Agreement.