From: Sandy Thatcher <[log in to unmask]> Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2016 01:12:40 -0600 This would then be the resumption and intensification of a trend for trade-type books to displace monographs in the lists of university presses that I foresaw and warned about in an address I gave to a plenary session of the AAUP annual meeting back in 1991 in a talk titled "Back to Basics," which may be found here: https://scholarsphere.psu.edu/files/9880vr01t Sandy Thatcher From: Tony Sanfilippo <[log in to unmask]> > Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2016 06:55:48 -0500 > > Joe, I don't think I can agree that it's a win-win. It doesn't seem to > me that DDA/PDA is or will only be used to displace ILL. It currently > seems to be displacing collection development at more and more > libraries. From my perspective it means fewer copies being sold for > each title which is likely to mean higher and higher prices. A $35 > transaction expense will be a steal in comparison. And more and more > consortial lending will help to bring that transaction cost down. > Perhaps an equilibrium will be achieved from the libraries' > perspective, but I don't think publishers will perceive it as a win. > It will continue to mean fewer print and ebooks sold and more and more > lending between library systems. > > Now if you mean that DDA/PDA is replacing ILL in instances that don't > trigger a purchase-the quick check to be sure a book says what you > think it says, or you just need a quick cite and the discovery system > brought you right where you needed to go-then yes, there will be that > net savings for libraries. But that will drive more and more > publishers away from the model, possibly leading to its collapse. > > I suspect the other unintended consequence of DDA/PDA beyond higher > title costs will be fewer publishing opportunities for scholars. When > the risk to the publisher increases, they are much more selective, and > will intentionally focus on the popular, and won't be able to gamble > on something that is merely good or novel. It's happening now. Have > you looked at the most recent season of university press catalogs? I > haven't seen that many trade books coming from university presses > since the nineties-cookbooks, mystery novels, poetry, memoirs, graphic > novels. Seems to me to be a response to the landscape this model is > creating. We're not publishing for libraries anymore, we're starting > to publish for Amazon. > > Best, > Tony Sanfilippo > > > Tony Sanfilippo, Director > Ohio State University Press > 180 Pressey Hall > 1070 Carmack Road > Columbus, OH 43210-1002 > ohiostatepress.org > (614) 292-7818 > > On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 4:37 PM, LIBLICENSE <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> >> From: Joseph Esposito <[log in to unmask]> >> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2016 09:14:18 -0500 >> >> I know that ILL is not free for librarians. The last time I looked >> into this I came across estimates of $35 per loan. If there is more >> recent information on this, I would like to know. This is ILL for >> print books, of course; ILL for ebooks would be a very different >> matter, one which may be constrained by copyright law. I have no >> expertise on that matter. >> >> My point about ILL and DDA/PDA is that DDA for electronic books is >> likely to displace ILL for print (for those books that appear in DDA >> aggregrations). A short-term loan may cost less than the $35 for print >> ILL. Publishers are likely to support this because they receive no >> income from ILL, but receive revenue from DDA (which is shared with >> the aggregator and author). It's a win-win, is it not? Libraries have >> lower costs, publishers receive income. The trucking companies lose >> out. >> >> Joe Esposito >> >> >> >> On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 11:11 PM, LIBLICENSE <[log in to unmask]> >> wrote: >> > >> > From: "Gonzales, Rhonda L" <[log in to unmask]> >> > Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2016 11:28:40 -0700 >> > >> > Joe, >> > >> > I always appreciate your comments. But I did want to interject that >> > ILL is not free for libraries. There is a fairly high cost per volume >> > > > to conduct ILL transactions, both borrowing and lending. Libraries > >> > absorb the cost of lending so that we can reap the benefits of >> > borrowing - that's what makes the system work. We choose to purchase >> > many print books that we could obtain for patrons via ILL both as a >> > convenience for our constituents as well as a cost savings for >> > ourselves. I assume that we would do this for ebooks as well, even if >> > we could get them via ILL from another library. >> > >> > Best regards, >> > Rhonda Gonzales >> > Dean of Library Services, Colorado State University-Pueblo >> > [log in to unmask] > >