From: Sandy Thatcher <[log in to unmask]> Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2016 23:23:43 -0600 Please explain what you mean by querying whether publishers' IP is legitimate. I have been a strong advocate of OA for more than two decades, but i also have been a member of the Copyright Committee of the Association of American Publishers since 1974. I do not see any contradiction in being both. Sandy Thatcher > From: Marcus A Banks <[log in to unmask]> > Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2016 05:00:58 +0000 > > Agree -- data/text mining requires different understandings. "Normal" > usage as defined by whom, and for what agenda? > > Obviously publishers will seek to protect their IP from entities such > as SciHub, but of course the entire debate surrounding open access is > whether that IP is legitimate. Which depends on which side of the > fence you stand on. > > The OA debate is now very stale. And the writing is on the wall for > immediate OA in the biosciences -- embargos will become a thing of > history. > > I hope that, going forward, the revenue streams for publishers > transition from licensing and APC schemes into licensing tools for > data/text mining on top of an open corpus. -- Marcus