From: "Jean-Claude Guédon" <[log in to unmask]> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 10:47:27 -0500 In response to Todd Puccio, I have no quarrel with the general thrust of Todd's argument. The time element was introduced because, indeed, it could help (or mask) what the purpose was. Thank you for helping to clarify. If I download something from Sci-Hub from my personal computer at home, on a weekend, and a publishers sues my university, the university will simply say: this has nothing to do with us. And I suspect most judges would agree with that. Jean-Claude Guédon Professeur titulaire Littérature comparée Université de Montréal Le jeudi 10 mars 2016 à 19:52 -0500, LIBLICENSE a écrit : From: Todd Puccio <[log in to unmask]> Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 15:33:45 +0000 In response to Jean-Claude Guédon : The issue is not "when" or "where" a SciHub article was downloaded or used, but rather, for what purpose. If the purpose is to further the goals of your institution then the ethical considerations that I have presented are in play. Imagine a newspaper headline: "Elsevier files Law Suit against the Université de Montréal over a researcher's use of SciHub articles in University conducted research" {of course, we know a headline would never really be that long} Now ask yourself, if the use of a SciHub article as an act Civil Disobedience was acting in the best interest of the Organization ? The University now has to expend resources defending itself against something that it did not explicitly support due to a researcher's personal feelings and a supposed act of civil disobedience. Right or Wrong - Win or Lose - the University will now suffer the consequences. I am just asking folks to _think before they act_ . If they feel so strongly about this, then fine, conduct Civil Disobedience, but please do not drag your organizations with you without organizational support. Respectfully, T. Puccio Todd Puccio Director of Technical Services / Librarian Nova Southeastern University Health Professions Division Library 3200 S. University Drive Ft. Lauderdale, FL 33328 [log in to unmask]