From: "Seeley, Mark (ELS-CMA)" <[log in to unmask]> Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2016 01:27:25 +0000 As far as I can tell, the complaints against the PWC report amount to how terrible the educational textbook market is globally (which is true, but Canada is worse), and the timing of copyright law decisions in Canada vs the copyright law changes made in 2012-- but I think the two are highly related and the statutory changes reflect the (poorly reasoned) prior decisions. Finally someone says that that the Canadian educational exception is the same as US fair use law-- that is wrong as well given the US is still based on individual fact-based judicial determinations (based on the four factors), not a blanket exception. I think the PWC report has plenty of clear facts and evidence, and there is no real significant dispute that licensing revenues for the sector is down enormously. That's a very clear fact that I don't think anyone can dispute. When I gave the reference for the PWC report I was very clear that it came from Access Copyright-- so a clear disclosure. I have no idea what the Trump reference below means. Best, Mark Mark Seeley, Senior Vice President & General Counsel Elsevier : Direct: +1 (781) 663-2241; Mobile: +1 (781) 354-4429 : [log in to unmask] -----Original Message----- From: "Jean-Claude Guédon" <[log in to unmask]> Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2016 18:35:19 -0400 This article is not terribly surprising. In fact, the reverse would have been amazing. Nicole Saint-jean is the very militant president of the Association Nationale des Éditeurs de Livres (National Association of Book Editors) in Québec. They have fought the extensions of Fair dealing in Canada with teeth and nails. As for the reaction from Mark Seely (Elsevier) quoting a report paid for by Access Copyright, I find it quite amusing: Access Copyright "is a collective voice of creators and publishers in Canada." (https://www.accesscopyright.ca/about-us/). Someone from Elsevier quoting Access Copyright is a bit like Mrs Trump quoting her husband. Not terribly convincing, folks... Incidentally, what these people are complaining about is essentially Canada moving its fair deal provision closer to the US fair use provision, particularly for the educational sector. Jean-Claude Guédon Le dimanche 30 octobre 2016 à 18:35 -0400, LIBLICENSE a écrit : From: Ann Shumelda Okerson <[log in to unmask]> Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2016 08:30:48 -0400 I was interested to see this short article: Canadian Copyright Modernization Act: Chronicle of a Disaster Foretold http://publishingperspectives.com/2016/10/canadian-copyright-modernization-act-chronicle-disaster-foretold/#.WAhzuph97gE It goes like this: "November 7, 2017, will mark the fifth anniversary since the Copyright Modernization Act came into force in Canada. But the act has brought enormous disruption to the book economy, which is based largely on the intangible capital that is copyright. For many Canadian authors, creators, and publishers, this act has been nothing short of a disaster." Any folks on the list who can comment or have a perspective on the above statement? It certainly caught my attention. Thank you, Ann Okerson