From: David Prosser <[log in to unmask]> Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2017 09:51:40 +0000 Reading the Nature article I see: "The defendants’ “unlawful activities have caused and will continue to cause irreparable injury to Elsevier, its customers and the public,” Elsevier’s New York-based attorneys, DeVore & DeMarco, told the court." I can understand how one might make a case for harm to the publisher (although proving it might be tricky) - but I’m struggling to think what the case might be for harm to customers and the public. Am I missing something obvious? David On 23 Jun 2017, at 07:16, LIBLICENSE <[log in to unmask]> wrote: From: Ann Shumelda Okerson <[log in to unmask]> Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2017 02:12:15 -0400 "One of the world's largest science publishers, Elsevier, won a default legal judgement on 21 June against websites that provide illicit access to tens of millions of research papers and books. A New York district court awarded Elsevier US$15 million in damages for copyright infringement by Sci-Hub, the Library of Genesis (LibGen) project and related sites." [SNIP] "But academic publishing observers following the case have questioned whether Elsevier will ever see any damages from Elbakyan, who resides outside the court's jurisdiction and has no assets in the United States. The ruling is also unlikely to prompt Sci-Hub or other pirate sites to close up shop." http://www.nature.com/news/us-court-grants-elsevier-millions-in-damages-from-sci-hub-1.22196 See also this: "The Association of American Publishers (AAP) welcomes the June 21, 2017 ruling of the United States District Court for the Southern District of New York regarding the willful infringement of scores of scholarly articles protected by copyright law. Ruling in favor of Elsevier, the publisher that brought the action, the Court entered a default judgment against Sci-Hub, the Library Genesis Project, and a number of related sites, and against the defendant operator." [SNIP] http://newsroom.publishers.org/the-association-of-american-publishers-welcomes-major-judgement-against-sci-hub-pirate-site/