From: "Brian C. Gray" <[log in to unmask]> Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2017 23:31:17 -0500 My guess of harm to customers and public include: Customers pay the legal costs in reality, as Elsevier passes those on in some form Increased possibility for false and/or ability to authenticate versions located Titles may fail if a lot the subscribers cancel Brian C. Gray Team Leader, Research Services Librarian: Chemical & Biomolecular Engineering and Macromolecular Science & Engineering Email: [log in to unmask] Kelvin Smith Library 201-K Research Guides & Profile: http://researchguides.case.edu/briangray Case Western Reserve University Kelvin Smith Library 11055 Euclid Avenue Cleveland, Ohio 44106-7151 Phone: (216) 368-8685 Fax: (216) 368-3669 2016-17 ALAO Past President: http://alaoweb.org/ On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 9:48 PM, LIBLICENSE <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > From: David Prosser <[log in to unmask]> > Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2017 09:51:40 +0000 > > Reading the Nature article I see: > > "The defendants’ “unlawful activities have caused and will continue to > cause irreparable injury to Elsevier, its customers and the public,” > Elsevier’s New York-based attorneys, DeVore & DeMarco, told the > court." > > I can understand how one might make a case for harm to the publisher > (although proving it might be tricky) - but I’m struggling to think > what the case might be for harm to customers and the public. Am I > missing something obvious? > > David > > > On 23 Jun 2017, at 07:16, LIBLICENSE <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > From: Ann Shumelda Okerson <[log in to unmask]> > Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2017 02:12:15 -0400 > > "One of the world's largest science publishers, Elsevier, won a > default legal judgement on 21 June against websites that provide > illicit access to tens of millions of research papers and books. A New > York district court awarded Elsevier US$15 million in damages for > copyright infringement by Sci-Hub, the Library of Genesis (LibGen) > project and related sites." > > [SNIP] > > "But academic publishing observers following the case have questioned > whether Elsevier will ever see any damages from Elbakyan, who resides > outside the court's jurisdiction and has no assets in the United > States. The ruling is also unlikely to prompt Sci-Hub or other pirate > sites to close up shop." > > http://www.nature.com/news/us-court-grants-elsevier-millions-in-damages-from-sci-hub-1.22196 > > See also this: > > "The Association of American Publishers (AAP) welcomes the June 21, > 2017 ruling of the United States District Court for the Southern > District of New York regarding the willful infringement of scores of > scholarly articles protected by copyright law. Ruling in favor of > Elsevier, the publisher that brought the action, the Court entered a > default judgment against Sci-Hub, the Library Genesis Project, and a > number of related sites, and against the defendant operator." > > [SNIP] > > http://newsroom.publishers.org/the-association-of-american-publishers-welcomes-major-judgement-against-sci-hub-pirate-site/