From: Michael Bisaccio <[log in to unmask]> Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2017 14:22:06 +0000 As part of the Cabell’s team (so, admittedly biased), I can say that every effort has been put into building the Blacklist with two core tenets in mind: objectivity and transparency. Toward this end, we have several full-time project managers working almost exclusively on the investigation, reporting, and publication of the Blacklist. As previously stated, in order to effectively and responsibly publish something like this, a great deal of resources must be devoted to its production. The goal of the Blacklist is not to punish or “call-out” journals that are simply new or low quality, but rather provide information on those that are engaged in deceptive or “predatory” practices. We have no agendas or ulterior motives. We do have detailed reports, listing the number and nature of violations for every journal that our specialists have evaluated and flagged as a threat. We will also be hosting a webinar on Monday, July 17 at 10 am CST to provide a look at the Whitelist and Blacklist – along with our new website and several new features. This will be a great chance to see the Blacklist up close and get an idea of the positive impact we know it will have on the academic community. To register for the webinar, visit: https://www.brighttalk.com/webcast/15775/269309?utm_source=Cabell%27s+International&utm_medium=brighttalk&utm_campaign=269309 Thanks. Michael Bisaccio Cabells [log in to unmask] -----Original Message----- From: Rick Anderson <[log in to unmask]> Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2017 01:17:33 +0000 I think the issues with Beall’s List arose from two fundamental problems: 1. Beall was one person, managing the list as a professional service in his spare time. I don’t think there’s any way for a list like his to be effectively and responsibly managed on that basis. 2. Beall had a clear animus towards open access, which he expressed explicitly and publicly. This, I think, led him to be less than compellingly motivated to be fair and scrupulous in his dealings with the publishers he blacklisted. Now, just to be clear: I don’t think he was dishonest. But I don’t think he felt very motivated to (for example) be clear and transparent with the appeals process (such as it was), and he certainly was not good about saying specifically why particular publishers were blacklisted. To some degree this may have been a function of problem #1 above, but I think his antagonism towards OA publishing generally contributed to this second problem also. I don’t expect Cabell’s to suffer from either of those problems. Cabell’s has (to my knowledge) no anti-OA agenda, and they have paid staff who will be managing the list and who I hope and expect will manage it responsibly and fairly. (And, of course, the fact that they’ll be charging for access to it means that they’ll have resources to maintain the service.) I’ve heard people grumble about the fact that Cabell’s will be charging, but honestly, I’m not sure this is a service that can be provided effectively without a revenue stream. It would be lovely if it could be free, but you could say the same about health care and food. Free is a great price if you can get it — but when it’s the price offered for our own labor we tend not to like it so much. That’s just my $.02. --- Rick Anderson Assoc. Dean for Collections & Scholarly Communication Marriott Library, University of Utah Desk: (801) 587-9989 Cell: (801) 721-1687 [log in to unmask] On 7/13/17, 4:27 PM, "LibLicense-L Discussion Forum on behalf of LIBLICENSE" <[log in to unmask] on behalf of [log in to unmask]> wrote: >From: "Sowards, Steve" <[log in to unmask]> >Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2017 12:42:59 +0000 > >Given the widespread interest on this list in Beall's list and the >factors that led to its demise, I wonder if anyone has comments or >information about this new for-fee alternative from Cabell? > >http://www.universityaffairs.ca/news/news-article/u-s-company-launches- >new-blacklist-deceptive-academic-journals/ > >What prevents the same limitations, cautions and misunderstandings from >playing out once again? > >Steven Sowards >Associate Director for Collections >Michigan State University Libraries >366 W. Circle Drive >East Lansing MI 48824