From: JJE Esposito <[log in to unmask]> Date: Mon, 28 May 2018 22:11:57 -0500 The use of list prices in discussions of journals is at best irrelevant and probably cynical. May I raise a data question? What is the cost per article across a library's many vendors? I am not suggesting that this is a good or useful metric; I am simply attempting to ascertain what that figure is. So, for example, if a library gets 1 million articles for $1 million, the cost per article would be $1. Are these figures commonly calculated? Are there any publicly available summaries? Thank you. Joe Esposito On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 10:33 PM, LIBLICENSE <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > From: David Prosser <[log in to unmask]> > Date: Fri, 25 May 2018 09:31:11 +0000 > > A couple of comments. > > Firstly, Gemma mentions the ‘journal subscription list prices’. Data from > Elsevier shows that less than 10% of their journals revenue comes from > customers paying list prices. Most are paying through big deals and so any > list price adjustment is irrelevant. > > Secondly, a sample of 36 UK institutions showed that in 2016 they were > paying a 17% premium on top of their big deals to make UK-authored papers > OA. The vast majority of that was for hybrid i.e., content that was > included in the big deal subscription price. > > David > > On 25 May 2018, at 03:19, LIBLICENSE <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > From: "Hersh, Gemma (ELS-LOW)" <[log in to unmask]> > Date: Thu, 24 May 2018 20:08:54 +0000 > > Hi > > > > I wanted to clarify one of the comments made below regarding double > dipping. > > > > Elsevier has a strict no double dipping policy, as described here > <https://www.elsevier.com/about/our-business/policies/pricing#dipping>. > Our journal subscription list prices are calculated based only on the > subscription articles in a journal. We do not charge twice for access to > the same article. > > > > Understandably, as open access content continues to grow, some have > wondered why this is not translating into a corresponding decrease in > subscription prices. And this is fueling concern about double dipping. > However, it is important to note that while OA is growing, the subscription > model is growing too. Certainly for Elsevier, the volume and quality of the > articles we publish continues to grow, across both the subscription and > open access business models. > > > > Kind regards > > Gemma > > > > Gemma Hersh > > VP, Open Science > > Elsevier I 125 London Wall I London I EC2Y 5AS > > M: +44 (0) 7855 258 957 I E: [log in to unmask] > > *Twitter: @gemmahersh* > >