From: Peggy E Hoon <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2018 17:10:23 +0000

Completely agree with Cindy – in these licenses, you are the lending library.  As Cindy says, the CONTU Guidelines applied to borrowing libraries since it was a way – deemed reasonable in 1978 based on the environment, practices, journal price and market, library budgets, etc., in existence in the mid-1970s – to interpret what might trigger the ‘need’, under Section 108, to subscribe based on the amount of the journal you were using.  CONTU was trying to put numbers on what constituted a substitute for a subscription in 1978, which, btw, was 40 years ago, is not the law, was not intended as a hard and fast rule, and was supposed to evolve as the environment evolved.   As a lending library, you cannot possibly know or monitor what a borrowing library is or is not doing with respect to either Section 108 or its 1978 interpretation, aka CONTU.  Putting that in a license amounts to essentially throw-away language since a lending library does not have the obligation, under the law or any guidelines, or the ability to monitor or control what a borrowing library does.  As Cindy and others recommend, it really makes no sense to have it there because it doesn’t do anything.

An analogy would be when a license attempts to require the institution to “warrant” or “ensure” or “promise” that its users (in our case, 35,000) will/shall abide by the terms and conditions of the license.  Really?  So far, neither I nor any of the Vendors I have asked point blank, have been able to tell me one single thing the institution can do to prospectively control the behavior of my 35,000 users.  Nada.  I can use reasonable measure to control access, to inform them of T&Cs and to respond to perceived situations but I cannot promise or warrant their behavior.  So, don’t do it.

Best,
Peggy

Peggy E. Hoon, J.D.

Director of Copyright Policy and Education
LSU Libraries
Louisiana State University 
295 Middleton Library, Baton Rouge, LA  70803 
office 225-578-2218 | fax 225-578-6825 
lsu.edu


From: "KRISTOF, CYNTHIA" <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2018 22:20:58 +0000

Because CONTU is a set of guidelines with activities (such as tracking) that concern the borrowing library. The lending library has a couple duties in CONTU, too, but the weight is largely on the borrowing library. As you know ILL sections of licences concern what libraries can do as lenders. However, we can't control what the borrowing libraries do regarding CONTU tracking... therefore, it's largely absurd to agree to it in a license and potentially trouble. I know the potential trouble part is probably a long shot. I just got done vacuuming, so I'm kind of wiped out, and this probably isn't the best explanation!

Maybe others can add to this? I hope this helps. 



From: Rachel Becker <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2018 15:16:32 +0000

Hi Cindy,

Can you expand on why you recommend not including CONTU guidelines in licenses?

Thank you!

Rachel Becker
Electronic Resources Management Librarian
University of Wisconsin – Madison

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From: "KRISTOF, CYNTHIA" <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2018 15:30:59 +0000

I would highly recommend leaving CONTU out of licenses altogether.

Leaving in secure electronic transmission or something to that effect is fine.

Best,

Cindy Kristof
Head, Copyright and Document Services & Associate Professor
Kent State University Libraries
1125 Risman Drive
Kent, OH 44242-0001
330-672-1641
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