From: David Groenewegen <[log in to unmask]> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2018 17:12:53 +1100 There is a transcript (with translation) of a open access conference appearance at UNT by Elbakyan at: https://openaccess.unt.edu/symposium/2016/info/transcript-and-translation-sci-hub-presentation I assume this is what Sandy is referring to, it is from 2016. DAVID GROENEWEGEN Director, Research Library Monash University On 11/12/2018 6:00 am, LIBLICENSE wrote: > From: SANFORD G THATCHER <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> > Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2018 10:16:28 -0500 > > If you read my post carefully, you would understand that it was not I > who was > characterizing Sci-Hub in terms of Marxist ideology. This is how Elbakyan > herself characterized what she was doing in an interview. > > Sure, what she has done with Sci-Hub can be framed in multiple other > ways, but > it strikes me as important to recognize how the founder herself represented > wbat she hoped her handiwork would accomplish. > > Others on this list who were present at the UNT conference, like Kevin > Hawkins, > can speak to whether what I heard is what I have stated here. > > Sandy Thatcher > > > > On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 01:39 AM LIBLICENSE <[log in to unmask] > <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: > > >>From: Jan Velterop <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> >>Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2018 23:55:15 +0100 >> >>What Sci-Hub does is no-doubt against existing law. But framing it as a >>“Marxist attempt to destroy capitalism” is quite an exaggerated >>characterisation. It could also be framed as a resistance movement >>objecting to much that’s perceived as wrong with scholarly communication, >>particularly restricting access to scientific knowledge as a privilege for >>the wealthy instead of making it freely accessible as a common good >> for the world. >> >>Framing it as such, as a protest against injustice, will inevitably accept >>that illegal action may well be part of it, as it often is in such >>circumstances. Civil disobedience and actions that are considered illegal >>are inherent in most protest against injustice. >> >>If you’re into exaggerated comparisons, you may even compare it with, for >>instance, the actions of the colonies in the American revolution against >>the then existing law. Without those illegal actions the colonies would not >>have achieved the changes that led to their independence. >> >>Johannes (Jan) J M Velterop [SNIP]