From: Angela Maranville <[log in to unmask]> Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2019 20:12:41 +0000 Hi Andrew, I see your point regarding usage. However, the vast majority of our cuts were “Big Deals” and did not impact small publishers. Nor did we blindly follow the data, which often discounts usage by the humanities and smaller departments. Our cuts were driven by dramatic budget reductions, were painful for everyone involved, and were not made lightly. Concerning SciHub access and downloads from campus networks, I have no idea. This would be a question for our campus ITS. And as yet, SciHub is not providing COUNTER reports. I also don’t have a number for how many times we have been hacked but I do know our proxy is much more secure as we have moved to dual authentication. Angie From: Andrew Pitts <[log in to unmask]> Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2019 09:14:14 +0000 Dear Angie, You mention here usage and Cost per Use. If a lot of usage is going directly to Sci-Hub and ResearchGate, your CPU will increase and you may think about the deal you have differently. If the CPU was $0.25 cents per download or $100 per download, they would be treated differently. Do you allow access to Sci-Hub from your University network? Do you know how many times you bring articles down from Sci-Hub into your network? Do you receive COUNTER usage reports from Sci-Hub? How many times has your University been hacked by Sci-Hub where they steal credentials from your users and download an article to place it for free on sci-Hub? They are doing this because there is a huge demand for Sci-Hub to have the latest articles available immediately. I deal with agents globally and have been told by many agents working outside of the USA and Europe, that the medium to smaller Universities are not renewing subs with some smaller publishers because their patrons are going to Sci-hub. This is for the smaller niche society publishers, who may have a slightly higher CPU. How awful would it be if many small societies were to have their deals cancelled by Universities because most of the usage went to Sci-Hub and ResearchGate, and their CPU increased to a level that made you want to cancel it? I truly believe Sci-Hub and ResearchGate are inevitably part of the decision making process, purely because they make it impossible to track usage and nobody really knows how many downloads are from their University. The 400,000 downloads per day that Sci-Hub report are coming mostly from the USA and Western European Universities, as we saw from the anonymous usage that was given to Science magazine in the past. Andrew Andrew Pitts Managing Director PSI Ltd Oxford, UK www.psiregistry.org Tel: +44-1865-849514 Cell:+44-7818451926 Please follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/ip_registry https://twitter.com/PubSolutionsInt From: Angela Maranville <[log in to unmask]> Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2019 16:21:35 +0000 Agreed! During our negotiations and subsequent unbundling last year, neither ResearchGate or SciHub were part of the decision. Instead we focused on many of the metrics discussed below, such as cost, usage, CPU, plus number of WVU citations and articles to drive the decision making as well implemented more robust ILL practices to provide access to unsubscribed resources. Best, Angie Angela R. Maranville, MA, MLIS Director, Knowledge Access & Resource Management Assistant University Librarian West Virginia University Libraries (304)293-2440 office [log in to unmask] [SNIP]