From: "Guédon Jean-Claude" <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2019 00:16:31 +0000

The second posting below explicitly refers to Schneider's blog in November 2018. We are still in the same conspiracy theory.

As for Fred Fenter and his action against Geoffrey Beall, we ought to remember that Geoffreey Beall was not pure white snow either... Some of his writings were, let us say, a tad over the top, such as characterizing SciELO as a favela of scientific publishing. Not the kind of civil exchange one would expect from a concerned and decent librarian.

Jean-Claude Guédon

On 2019-07-15 7:12 p.m., LIBLICENSE wrote:
From: Rick Anderson <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2019 14:54:31 +0000

See also:

 

https://thegeyser.substack.com/p/does-plan-s-hide-another-scandal

 

https://thegeyser.substack.com/p/is-plan-s-just-a-front-for-frontiers

 

(That first posting is normally for subscribers only, but Kent agreed to open it up for purposes of this discussion.)

 

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From: "Jan Erik Frantsvåg" <[log in to unmask]>

Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2019 06:28:52 +0000

I am sceptical. Not that I think the facts are made up, but I see no trace of any activity to look for communication with other publishers – why only Frontiers?

 

I have seen scholars saying that Plan S is perfectly suited to Frontier’s business models, implying less suited for the business models of other publishers. I fail to see that Frontier’s business model is uniquely suited to Plan S, it fits most APC-based/commercial OA publishers.

 

Robert-Jan Smits has said that Plan S was developed partly based on consultations with publishers. Unless someone can document Frontiers was massively over-represented in this process, I will remain sceptical to the value of this story.

 

Best,

Jan Erik 

 

Jan Erik Frantsvåg

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The University Library

UiT The Arctic University of Norway

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From: "Jim O'Donnell" <[log in to unmask]>

Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2019 12:54:38 -0700

This came across my screen today, making me aware that I know too
little about the author of the post, the publisher involved, and the
other facts known about the origins and development of Plan S.  Is
this posting credible and how could it help me think about the plan
and the issues?

https://forbetterscience.com/2019/07/11/frontiers-and-robert-jan-smits-emails-reveal-how-plan-s-was-conceived/

Jim O'Donnell
ASU