From: Pippa Smart <[log in to unmask]> Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2019 09:25:58 +0100 Thank you for these comments which pre-empted my own reply as the editor of Learned Publishing. Yes it would cost you $42 to own the PDF, but you could get access to read it for as little as $7. (And we also make all content freely available after 2 years.) But a more cost-effective way to access all articles in Learned Publishing is to become a member of its parent organization: If any of you work for an organization which is a member of ALPSP then you and all your colleagues have access to the journal as well as the other member benefits (monthly newsletter, reduced-rate training, etc.). So you could become an individual member of SSP for c.$180, or your institution could become a member for as little as £265 (c.$320) which would give all faculty access to the journal. And to echo Joseph's point, whilst we would love to be read by thousands, we are considerably more niche than the NYT. Pippa ***** Pippa Smart Research Communication and Publishing Consultant PSP Consulting, Oxford, UK email: [log in to unmask] Web: www.pspconsulting.org @LearnedPublish **** Editor-in-Chief of Learned Publishing (www.Learned-Publishing.org) President: European Association of Science Editors (http://www.ease.org.uk/) On Fri, 16 Aug 2019 at 01:36, LIBLICENSE <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > From: "Hinchliffe, Lisa W" <[log in to unmask]> > Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2019 23:15:05 +0000 > > FYI... just $85 for librarians! > https://www.sspnet.org/community/join-ssp-now/ > > Lisa Janicke Hinchliffe > [log in to unmask] > > ------------------------------ > From: JJE Esposito <[log in to unmask]> > Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2019 08:26:46 -0400 > > Comparing the price of a scholarly publication, with an audience numbered > in the hundreds, with a NY Times bestseller, with an audience of hundreds > of thousands, reveals a lack of understanding of economics. > > Individuals can get "Learned Publishing" by joining the Society for > Scholarly Publishing for $180. That gets you not only the article in > question but the entire journal, which is available to SSP members as part > of an arrangement with ALPSP. SSP has other benefits for members as well, > including its support for "The Scholarly Kitchen," that beacon of truth and > justice. "Kitchen" contributors include librarians (e.g., Lisa Hinchliffe, > Rick Anderson). > > Joe Esposito > > Joseph J. Esposito > [log in to unmask] > @josephjesposito > +Joseph Esposito > > > On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 6:58 PM LIBLICENSE <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> From: "Smith, Kevin L" <[log in to unmask]> >> Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2019 13:02:36 +0000 >> >> Paywalled indeed. My own situation vis-à-vis this article is telling, I >> think. We had to cancel our Wiley “big deal” last year because we could no >> longer afford it. *Learned Publishing* is not among the comparatively >> small number of Wiley titles we retained. A PDF of the individual article >> would cost me $42, almost three times more than what the latest NYT >> bestseller would cost me on Amazon. In itself, this illustrates the market >> failures that have led to the development of ResearchGate and SciHub, and >> it is because they are fighting against a collapsing market that these >> lawsuits are futile. >> >> >> >> Interestingly, if Professor Manley has published in a traditional law >> review, his article would quite likely be more widely available, since they >> are virtually all open. >> >> >> >> Kevin Smith >> >> University of Kansas >> >> >> >> >> >> From: "Jim O'Donnell" <[log in to unmask]> >> >> Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2019 15:50:07 -0700 >> >> Stewart Manley of the law faculty at the University of Malaya in Kuala >> Lumpur has an interesting new article in* Learned Publishing*: "On the >> limitations of recent lawsuits against Sci-Hub, OMICS, ResearchGate, and >> Georgia State University," *doi: 10.1002/leap.1254* (probably paywalled >> for many). He assesses the effect on real world behavior of recent >> lawsuits advanced and won against institutions pressing forward with open >> access strategies by major publishers. He gives these "key points": >> >> >> >> - The 2017 Sci-Hub judgment has, to date, proven unenforceable, and >> it appears that enforcing the 2019 OMICS judgment will similarly prove >> challenging. >> - Business developments and changing expectations over sharing >> digital content may also undermine the impact of the ongoing cases against >> ResearchGate and Georgia State University. >> - Stakeholders should consider these limitations when deciding how to >> resolve scholarly publishing disputes. >> >> >> >> It's not unprecedented that attempts at definitive action/direction >> through political/legal institutions may be rendered irrelevant by >> adjustments in the behavior of stakeholders pursuing their own interests. >> In this case it makes the author optimistic that moves toward open access >> will in fact prevail in spite of legal defeats or restrictions. >> >> >> >> Jim O'Donnell >> >> ASU >> >