From: Ari Belenkiy <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2019 15:09:29 -0800

>   and once again: Gold OA means an open access journal, and it implies nothing with regard to the financing of that journal.   

Let me disagree.

IF an author pays for his forthcoming article in advance, the journal benefits directly - this payment is like an insurance, which quashes the uncertainty, as the article might not be in demand and thus could not be easily sold otherwise than via a controversial and unpopular bundle subscription.

Ari Belenkiy

Vancouver BC
Canada

On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 5:35 PM LIBLICENSE <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
From: "Guédon Jean-Claude" <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2019 16:15:34 +0000

At the very least, the question was poorly phrased because of  its incorporating redundant terms: a "fully open access journal", by definition, does not charge subscription fees to anyone. As for SCOAP3-type agreements, they should not be treated as subscriptions.

Incidentally, and once again: Gold OA means an open access journal, and it implies nothing with regard to the financing of that journal. When APCs are involved, the journal belongs to a subset of Gold, and, properly speaking, it should be called APC-Gold.

Jean-Claude Guédon

On 2019-11-06 4:00 p.m., LIBLICENSE wrote:
From: "Mittermaier, Bernhard" <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2019 20:00:38 +0000

Hi Rachel,  Don't you think the question was asked in a biased way?

T&F asked:
"would you submit your work to a fully open access journal which charged for publication and published no subscription content?" 

What do you think about:
"would you submit your work to a journal which publishes all articles open access free for everybody to read and does not charge the libraries for subcription fees?"

By using a non-neutral way of explaining Gold OA in the question you might have influenced the answers.

Best regards,
Bernhard
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