From: "Guédon Jean-Claude" <[log in to unmask]> Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2019 16:55:19 +0000 The text quoted below must be parsed carefully. Are the universities supposed to be the sole owners of scientific output? And, if they are, does it mean that they are going to place these "assets" in the public domain? The publishing rights are also relevant here. Are they exclusive or not? Jean-Claude Guédon On 2019-11-07 8:15 p.m., LIBLICENSE wrote: From: <[log in to unmask]> Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2019 09:58:05 +0100 “*… the universities remain the owner of scientific output, both articles and data, …”* Really? That would be a radical step forward. Finally, the results of publicly financed research stay where they belong, in the public domain. Leo From: "Hersh, Gemma (ELS-LOW)" <[log in to unmask]> Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2019 16:38:42 +0000 In response to the article VSNU said the following: *We confirm that we are exploring with Elsevier about services that contribute to increased knowledge of Dutch (open) science system. There is joint agreement that the universities remain the owner of scientific output, both articles and data, and of associated metadata.* *We will always decide what third parties such as Elsevier can and cannot do with this (meta)data. Discussions are ongoing, if there is an outcome it will of course be made public. Until then we appreciate all responses. No irreversible steps, options open for whatever result.* https://twitter.com/deVSNU/status/1192083387076562944 *Ver. Universiteiten <https://twitter.com/deVSNU>* *@deVSNU <https://twitter.com/deVSNU>* Gemma Hersh SVP, Global Research Solutions Elsevier On 6 Nov 2019, at 12:52, LIBLICENSE <[log in to unmask]> wrote: From: <[log in to unmask]> Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2019 13:17:38 +0100 Research data in exchange for open access, the new Elsevier policy? https://www.scienceguide.nl/2019/11/leaked-document-on-elsevier-negotiations-sparks-controversy/ Leo Waaijers