From: "Jim O'Donnell" <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2019 20:34:36 -0700

Steve, this is smart and fascinating.  If the comparison is valid (and that
depends on the consistency and accuracy of the data collection and
reporting from ARL), it suggests that the age of e-journals has seen a
quadrupling of journals subscribed.  Brian Simboli suggests a reduction in
overall quantity of journals could be helpful, but he and I offline have
chatted and don't see a realistic way to make that come about.  The idea
that we could encourage promotion and compensation review systems in
research institutions to value quality over quantity, e.g., by allowing
submission for review of only top 5 or 10 or 25 articles from a given
author, has been around for a long time and gotten essentially no
traction.

I'll still worry, though, about the validity of those ARL data and welcome
any other good measures for what has happened to the journal universe in
those 24 years since the first meaningful e-journal deals from big
publishers.

Jim O'Donnell
ASU

On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 7:50 PM LIBLICENSE <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> From: "Bosch, Stephen J - (boschs)" <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2019 23:35:37 +0000
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> One source of data for question 1 could be ARL. In 1995 the median number
> of current serials provided by ARL libraries was a bit over 21,000 while in
> 2011, the last year ARL gathered the number of serials, the median had
> increased to slightly more than 90,000.
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> From: Brian Simboli <[log in to unmask]>
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> Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2019 19:15:51 -0500
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> A few points.
>
>
>
> 1.  Jim O'Donnell asks: "How large was the universe of academic journals
> held in American universities in 1995?  How many titles?  Now, how many do
> we have now?  I pick 1995 as the year in which big deal pricing began more
> or less and the big publishers started offering e-access."
>
>
>
> *That is a great question. Is there any reliable source for this data,
> broken out by subject area? I can think of  one or two possible sources for
> this data but it is presented annually.*
>
>
>
> 2.  Danny Kingsley mentions that "..we often frame these discussions
> [about download use, citations and so on] around the academic use of
> research papers, and it is true they are the ones creating citations. But
> in a university there is a huge cohort of use by students which is
> important to consider. In terms of cancellations, particularly on a large
> scale, it is likely in the first year the student use won’t be greatly
> affected - the percentage of papers that were published within the last 12
> months put on reading lists for students would be small. But as years
> progress and access remains cut off this might start to impact on the
> student experience."
>
> *This is a nice point about the need to take student use into
> consideration. This does drop out of view in many conversations.*
>
>
>
> I'd take it however in a perhaps different (?) direction and suggest that
> a contracted journal space is consistent with this point, from the
> standpoint that journals should assume much more of an integrative and
> review role than they do now. That can be accomplished with significantly
> fewer of them.  In instruction sessions for undergraduates, I routinely
> talk about the great value of review articles in the context of their value
> for developing background knowledge. They play a key educational role.  But
> the same point extends to graduate students and researchers new to a field.
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